Hello,
First of all I don’t really get the actual meaning of “please”. I understand it as it used to make a polite request. However I have rarely seen any westerner saying “please” on either Lemmy, Mastodon or IRC. where I live using “please” (मेहरबानी) is used often.
sudo make me a sandwich…please
I rarely use ‘seldom’
People say it in person a lot. Another factor might be that some people view it coming across as either non genuine or passive aggressive in written form.
We say it out loud a lot. People seem to remember to be polite when not anonymous.
I write and speak the word please quite a lot. In all of my emails when requesting things for work or pleasure I use it. I was raised in the US South and I think it’s very common practice here to teach kids in such a way. My own kids are being taught the same. I can’t obviously speak for the rest of Western society though.
I’m fanatical about saying please and thank you, and it drives me batty that others don’t. Someone offers you a snack, say no thank you, don’t say “no I don’t like those” like a goddamned toddler.
I only use it in writing when making direct requests. I say it quite often.
I say it often in my day to day life. I don’t use it much on Lemmy because I rarely ask anyone to do anything on here
Online discourse tends not to be the kind of place (in the English-speaking world) where “please” is the appropriate response.
it’s not so seldom in my experience.
Not a westerner but after moving to Australia, took me a while to get used to using please. It’s not common where I’m from lol
Because the boomers forced us to say it or we got hit and we are through appeasing them.
I just checked, and I used “please” about 30 times in the last year on lemmy.ml. I live in Burgerland.
Did you mean Burgenland? It’s a funny typo.
I meant Burgerland, home of the Whopper and the Big Mac.
“Please” is short for “if it pleases you” or “if you please”. It’s used to turn a command into a request. It’s probably not used on Lemmy, etc. because we’re not requesting things of each other a lot.
It’s probably not used on Lemmy, etc. because we’re not requesting things of each other a lot.
Speak for yourself please. Make me a sandwich please
This is very nuanced and could be difficult to understand, but the word please can have a negative context between people that are related, like with family, or when codependent such as housemates or coworkers. The word please can have a negative emphasis like nagging. As an example, one might say:
- Please take out the trash.
- Take out the trash! Please!
- PLEASE! TAKE, OUT, THE TRASH!
These are common forms of natural speech where the word please does not have the same meaning exactly. In the latter two examples, the word please is like a subtle way of saying, 'just do what I ask without further arguing.
The language and formalities greatly depend on where you live, the local culture, and the population density in that region. In rural parts of the USA, formalities are common, but often are very hallow in deeper meaning. For instance, in the Deep Southeastern USA, like Alabama, there is a common phrase ‘bless your heart.’ This phrase actually means, “I disagree and think that you are a fool,” but the meaning is like an unspoken truth and an inside joke at the same time. If you confront the phrase directly, the person will tell you they only meant the phrase positively, and they will make you look and feel like a fool for assuming it was said negatively. If you fail to realize the true meaning of the phrase, everyone that does know the meaning will see you as a fool. If you recognize the true nature of the statement, you are forced to rephrase your argument or agree to disagree.
The word please is most common in these rural cultures along with words like sir and ma’am. This language culture has a strong association with the conservative Right, religious extremism, deep prejudice, and toxic stupidity in the USA. That subculture association seems to impact the use of such linguistic formalities elsewhere in the country.
The word please still has a basic meaning of kindness among strangers or coworkers, but its formal use as a normative standard has a strong association with the worst of our subcultures in the USA. The second I hear someone talking like that, I immediately distrust them like seeing a person walk into a bank wearing a trenchcoat and a ski mask.