I’ve been a happy user of an R.A.T. 4 which is quite an advanced mouse, for about 5 years. It worked fine on Linux too except for the sensitivity reduction push button (these existed back in the day) that needed special Windows only drivers. Unfortunately it broke down a few months ago so I had to switch to a 10+ years old office mouse that I had but it’s not good for any gaming obviously.
So I want to buy a new mouse and a good one. I’m thinking of something like a Dream Machines DM4 Evo S or a Hator Pulsar Essential. These have additional buttons, RGB and, what I’m the most worried about, very high DPI sensors (16k on the DM for example). They seem to use well known components from major manufacturers though and Hator even has official Linux support afaik.
Can I possibly run into any issues with modern gaming mice (specifically the mentioned ones) on Linux? I don’t need any software, macros or RGB effects. I just want the buttons and sensitivity adjustment working so I can use the mouse on my Linux machines. I use Windows for gaming anyways.
“Disrespect of poor people”
My dude, you never even posted a budget. Gaming mice are usually around a hundred dollars since they’re meant to be of a higher build quality, as well as equipped with more, better bells and whistles. Your scoffing every time someone mentions a mouse more expensive than an Amazon basics one doesn’t matter if someone is answering your post without having read everything that was said prior.My dude, you never even posted a budget.
I never even asked for mouse recommendations. I asked if they are deleted well supported on Linux but people started asking me to spend my 2 months worth of income on a mouse. It’s not what I asked for at all so please don’t mind my anger in this case.
You said you’re looking for a new mouse and that Linux support is a concern in the same message. That is going to lead most people to assume you’re at least open to suggestions. For sure sometimes people in nerdy forums will try to ‘correct’ you rather than help you, but come on.
And the only thing I’d worry about is customization software. Mechanical keyboards are generally well supported on Linux in that regard, but #Gamer #RGB, consumer peripherals will often only target Windows users on the software end of things.
You said you’re looking for a new mouse and that Linux support is a concern in the same message. That is going to lead most people to assume you’re at least open to suggestions. For sure sometimes people in nerdy forums will try to ‘correct’ you rather than help you, but come on.
Ok but recommending crazy expensive mice without giving me money and then accusing me in doing something wrong is terrible and hilarious.
And the only thing I’d worry about is customization software.
I said I didn’t care about it. I just needed the mouse to work. I have Windows for customization.
Every fucking suggestion you received can be bought for ~30-50$ right now. If that’s “crazy expensive” to you, maybe you should consider just getting a regular mouse. I’m pretty happy with my 10$ wireless mouse from Amazon. Neither regular or gaming mice will have issues with Linux, as you’d know if you just spent five minutes with any search engine.
So long as you’re not playing competitively, for which you’ll generally want a computer that’s actually “crazy expensive”, you don’t need a gaming mouse. It’s a luxury item.
I am using a logitech g502 that has pretty much everything you listed as important. 0 issues with it on linux and you can even customise the onboard profiles with piper. Everything on it just works.
Yeah I also have one of these I’ve used on linux for years, it’s always worked perfectly. Better than windows honestly since the one time I made the mistake of booting windows with it connected, windows found some driver that it automatically installed that instantly deleted all of my profiles so I had to go set them up again with piper. I didn’t like that very much, that was the last time I ever booted windows on one of my primary computers
I’ve seen you commenting on each option given that “it’s too expensive”. To help us help you, what is your budget and the minimum DPI you would be comfortable with? Be mindful that some advertised DPI are just that, “advertised”.
I play on 1600-3200. Idk if higher DPI will help with anything. Also the prices vary in different regions but my budget is around $25.
Ok, this one will work, I got it for my son and he’s on ZorinOS. After programming the buttons (must be done in windows) he can plug and use the mouse, without drivers, on any computers (windows, mac, Linux, remote terminals) and preserve his customized button commands.
I got away with configuring on a windows 10 VM passing the USB port through.
Redragon M612 Predator RGB Gaming Mouse, 8000 DPI Wired Optical Gamer Mouse with 11 Programmable Buttons & 5 Backlit Modes, Software Supports DIY Keybinds Rapid Fire Button https://a.co/d/0hNFeXV7
Make sure you get the black one if you’re going to go this route, the white one is more expensive and it’s the exact same thing, not worth the extra money in my opinion.
If you don’t mind trying something different then give the GameBall trackball a go.
It has a lot of features and smarts that are controlled via the firmware within the unit (and as such doesn’t require extra software). Plenty you can do with extra software (same as any other device but it works well with generic)
Trackballs are good for Pong and Breakout. That’s about it.
Nah to me trackballs don’t look too convenient for shooters and pretty much anything tbh. Thanks for the suggestion though.
I’ve been using a trackball for a few years. I actually had a RAT 3 many years ago.
You don’t have to move your mouse at all, you just move the ball. It significantly reduces the time it takes to put the cursor in the desired position and also lessens wrist and finger strain due to the lower level of movement.
I can do a 180 in a shooter way quicker and easier because of it, and it makes scrolling a large document a lot more bearable. I also have more space on my desk now because the trackball doesn’t need to travel around like a normal mouse.
Just some stuff to think about, because your comment is very confusing to me since my trackball has been exceptionally convenient for both gaming and regular desktop use.
I actually had a RAT 3 many years ago.
Wait there was RAT 3? I only know 4, 6 and MOUS 7 or whatever the name of that green flagship one was.
Anyways how much is a trackball? I only saw one for like $600.
There are a variety of price ranges. I have an Elecom HUGE which I think was like $80 (I got an Amazon Warehouse deal so I only paid $30), but there are a lot of different models across various brands.
Kensington is also a common (and more expensive) brand from what I’ve read online. But I encourage you to do your research, figure out your grip style, watch and read reviews, or see if you can try one in-person before buying.
Some companies make better products than others and some models are known for being lower quality even from bigger brands, so be aware of that. For example, Elecom uses synthetic ruby bearings instead of synthetic cubic zirconia bearings, so they wear out slower but sometimes feel scratchy (not really a big deal since bearings are consumables, but something to factor into the price and overall build quality).
I dunno, I like mine; it makes gaming easier and my mouse hand hurts less now so I do like to advocate for trackballs when they’re mentioned.
Mister/miss, the mice I mentioned in my post were $30. 3x more expensive stuff is out of the question.
Okay, that’s your choice. I think it’s worth it but everyone has different needs. Enjoy the new mouse when you get one.
It’s not my choice but my lack of choice due to limited resources. If I could then I’d try everything. Still thanks
Modern HID drivers are very generalized and abstracted away from the hardware pretty much anymore in Windows and Linux. Aside from specific button customizations (pretty much all done in companion app software, not the driver anymore), you shouldn’t see any issues. The DPI switching should be done on device, but maybe ask the manufacturer before you buy to be sure. Since you don’t care about RGB control, I don’t forsee you having any issues.
The DPI switching should be done on device, but maybe ask the manufacturer before you buy to be sure.
That’s something important. I prefer models with DPI buttons so I can switch it. The problem is that some mice don’t seem to have onboard memory (or at least they don’t tell it) for settings storage so I wonder if that can cause some issues.
For logitech mice there is some software with some support. Unofficial of course.
Logitech is too expensive for me.
I would recommend the logitech g305. It is wireless, but quite fast. It has a sensor that will do 12000dpi with a dpi button. It runs off aa batteries so you rarely have to change them. Low battery notifications even work. You can get it for around 40 bucks at best buy. (Not shilling best buy, the price on logitech’s site is 60)
I only want wired options and the price is too high.
You might want to include that information in your original post. You are telling people over and over that their suggestions are too expensive. You’re wasting peoples time.
If you didn’t notice, I didn’t ask for option suggestions. My question was different.
Most wireless mice can be used wired too.
Then what’s the point in paying extra for the wireless functionality?
Because some people want both options.
Sure but we’re talking about my case and I said I don’t.
No, but it also gives you a wider selection of mice to choose from, since you could just ignore the wireless functionality. Some of them may cost a bit more, but not necessarily very much.
For me it is a lot. As I said in one of the replies, seeing recommendations that are multiple times over the budget starts driving me insane at this point.
I switched from a RAT to a 903 series Logitech. I tried the 805 since its so popular, but was more at home with the 903.
Also, the Lightspeed charging pad is so nice. Took me forever to make that purchase, but glad I did.
Ngl these $6900 recommendations are starting to drive me insane. If you recommend a mouse that’s 5x over the budget, send money as well.
You didn’t mention a budget. Maybe just be insane then.
https://github.com/libratbag/libratbag/tree/master/data/devices
Personally, I would pick something from this list. Then you can use piper to manage your mouse settings, and it will be an awesome experience.
I have a Logitech G305 with a custom shell and modded switches that I love, for something close you can look at pmm.gg custom mice.
- I don’t need the software. I don’t use it.
- That’s way too expensive for me but thanks for the recommendation I guess.
Those are very basic mice that will have no issues in Linux if you don’t care about their software.
