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    Some people don’t identify as either of those. And there already is a common word that can be used for either singular or plural, which is “you.”

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      4 months ago

      And English is imprecise for “you” as well. For he/she/it grammar at least doesn’t change. Substitute that pronoun for they and suddenly the grammar switches to plural. That totally confuses me.

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        “They” can quite happily function as singular. I asked my friend about this and they gave me their opinion. They told me that they use “they” or “them” to discuss people when their biological sex is unimportant or unknown. I would like to ask them more but they have to leave. They tell me that they’ll be back later.

        They (singular) say something. He/she/it says something. They (all) say something. You (all) say something. I say something. You (singular) say something. You’ll notice “he/she/it” seems to be the irregular outlier here. English is strange.

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          4 months ago

          “He goes”. Correct.

          “She goes.” Correct.

          “It goes.” Correct.

          “They goes.” Wrong. And that’s just confusing for people who never ever were taught that in any form of education. I know it’s an old construct and not a new innovation but for people like me it feels just off. It’s not malice on my part to act against different genders, I’m just explaining why that part of the English language is weird

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            4 months ago

            It’s not wrong, it’s just generally offensive since colloquially “it” refers to objects rather than a individual.

            And as it follows, “it” is used as a insulting term when people want to dehumanize something.

            Also it’s “They go” and “I go”, perfectly serviceable for singular use.

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              4 months ago

              “I goes”. Incorrect “They goes”. Incorrect

              You don’t understand that one is first person singular and the other is not? Is your basic English really so much worse than mine?

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          4 months ago

          Yeah without the singular they your English is bad. Sucks for non native speakers but it’s how our language works.

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            4 months ago

            Yeah - that’s probably all true. Most people seem to cope with “you singular” and “you plural” in English but struggle with “they/them singular” and “they/them plural”. I’m not sure why.