I forgot to set a reminder so I’m a little late getting to this, but here we are again:
Are you a “tankie”?
Respond “yes” or “no”, I’ll collate results later
This process is being undertaken to determine if so-called “tankies” are conspiring to make you (yes, you) have a bad time on the internet!
vague or informal answers will be interpreted by the central authority (me). Only top level comments will be counted. I will not be providing further instructions or clarifications.
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Link to previous results (very serious) hexbear / lemmy,ml
Link to previous “are you a tankie?” thread
I’ll likely check back in a week, my old pc died so itll take a little bit of time to prettify the results and write a report
Ciao, and of course, imperialism must be destroyed.
I think I interacted with one? They were denying the prosecution of the Muslim Uygurs by China
Interesting that the outright Islamophobe seems to be defending muslims against China. Either way, it’s likely you were told that the situation is more complicated. The best and most comprehensive resource I have seen so far is Qiao Collective’s Xinjiang: A Resource and Report Compilation. Qiao Collective is explicitly pro-PRC, but this is an extremely comprehensive write-up of the entire background of the events, the timeline of reports, and real and fake claims.
I also recommend reading the UN report and China’s response to it. These are the most relevant accusations and responses without delving into straight up fantasy like Adrian Zenz, professional propagandist for the Victims of Communism Foundation, does.
Tourists do go to Xinjiang all the time. You can watch videos like this one on YouTube, though it obviously isn’t going to be a comprehensive view of a complex situation like this.
Lol, it was the very same “bear or man” but I just changed man with Muslim because that’s what you’re all being stupid about. The bear or man point stayed but mine got “moderated” for islamophobia. And yeah this “outright islamophobe” is against the concept of ethnic cleansing, wowe.
While I appreciate you actually bringing up sources unlike that other asshole, I can’t really take you seriously throwing out claims like the first one.
Now, I won’t admit I’m an expert and it’s a fairly way back event. But what I was told was that they basically corraled all those Muslims and didn’t let them practice their faith.
Why can’t people admit countries do shitty things? It’s happened with mine, it’s happened with China and it’s happened with the US.
Being islamophobic “ironically” doesn’t get a pass, though. All that looks like is looking for an excuse to be bigoted in a socially acceptable manner.
Either way, you admit to not being an expert and haven’t dug into sources, yet fully accept what you are told and agree that China is committing ethnic cleansing just because “countries do shitty things?” High accusations like ethnic cleansing need actual proof, not just people parroting the claims of Adrian Zenz uncritically.
There’s a political reason the idea of genocide is pushed, it’s to undermine the PRC’s international image and delay the Belt and Road Initiative in the Xinjiang Autonomous Zone, which is a key point connecting mainland China to Europe and the Middle East.
Again, being islamophobic “ironically” to get upset at someone complaining about systemic violence against women is not okay.
I simply replaced the words that referenced me with someone else. Why is it OK when done to me but not when done to some other group?
Simply put. Zip it with the virtue signaling, stupid talk like this will just get more people voting trump. Why’d I support a group that talks about me like this?
Women and muslims are both systematically oppressed groups, you used someone complaining about violence against women as a springboard to make an incredibly poor “joke” about muslims, just repeating standard islamophobic talking points as the “joke.” This isn’t about virtue signalling, you were in the wrong and it was right to remove your comment.
Who said it was a joke. I straight up just replaced the word men with Muslim. Why is it to OK to say that about one group of people and not the other?
You aren’t gonna convince the man who’s been told in the face “All men are predators” that this kind of talk is OK to be directed at anyone.
I am simply done with anyone who believes this stupid black or white rethoric. Look, you already caged me as the “oughtright islamophobe”, move on as nothing I say will ever move you and nothing you say will ever move me.
So it wasn’t a joke, you were just being openly islamophobic after all? Incredible.
Again, women and muslims are both systemically oppressed. No, nobody said “all men are predators,” you took personal offense to someone talking about widespread systemic oppression of women. Do some self-crit, you talked down on someone speaking against oppression and added your own islamophobic take.
I’m sorry but yeah. I’ll be blunt but yes. Someone said “All men are predators”. In Spanish actually, because I live in Spain “Todos los hombres son predadores, está en los estudios” where their words one to one.
The way I see it now, feminism has been poisoned by all this fairly recent talk and I certainly make it known on my valots.
Simply put, being part of a sistematically oppressed group shouldn’t give free reign to insult people. Point one, me! I’m Muslim and if you try to dig down my posts and say “you aren’t brown enough”. Please self-flagellate upon said islamophobia.