I am an Indian and I have noticed that Indians are way too proud of their country for some reason and at the same time lack any civic sense towards it, they are extremely loud and extremely proud. We feel like the world revolves around India and our culture is superior to that of others. Also, a considerable chunk of the population has been sold the “India is a world-leader” myth and they think India is somehow leading the world in innovation, science and technology, human development etc.,

Now, I know for a fact that this is not true, when I try to gauge the perception of Indians abroad on Twitter, I get pretty negative results, but Twitter has nothing good to say about any group of people, so… I kinda wanted to know what you people though of India, don’t base it upon the etnic Indians who might be your friends and are decent people, but base it upon the news you read, the stories you hear from those Indians, etc.

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    Since no one else mentioned it, The Baha’i Lotus Temple in New Delhi is on my bucket list to visit. Absolutely gorgeous architecture.

    An architect that was based in London when it was built said of the project, “such a building would be extremely difficult to build in London. In India it will prove impossible.” Not only did you guys build it, but there were 0 workplace fatalities in the process of building it.

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    To be fair, every country believes their culture is superior in some way, partly because it’s beneficial for governments to instil a sense of nationalism in its citizens. India’s not alone in that.

    • I can attest to that. I was born and brought up in India, and right now in the US for education. It’s kind of the same here as well, just expressed differently due to cultural differences. The fact that the US is actually the world leader at this time makes these people much more dangerous imo.

      In any case, I’m more hopeful about my country after the last election. They seem to be rejecting religious fundamentalism to some degree. It’ll take time, but I think we’re finally starting to see through BJP’s lies. I hope I can go back to India soon enough. (It’s hard to get good jobs in my field there at the moment. Counting on it changing at some point.)

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      I agree, but we have crossed a limit between self-love and self-obsession. It’s hindering progress because people in India are not even ready to acknowledge what’s wrong with our priorities, culture and way of living and are calling anyone who questions their way of life anti-national. Sometimes, it feels like I am living in Eritrea or something!

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        You see that everywhere. Even within countries that aren’t classed as developing nations. The UK massively shot itself in the foot with the disaster that was Brexit thanks to nationalistic propaganda and outright lies from campaigners, and US liberals have faced “anti-American” backlash for their views.

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    My basic view of India is of a super diverse country with a fascinating history and cultures, and really great food. Politically I see a country that unfortunately is leaning in a more authoritarian direction as time goes one, and one that is getting increasingly unequal to its inhabitants. I really think India has so much potential but little will to actually improve.

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    I’ve been working with many Indians remotely who were in India and on site in Sweden and Germany. None of them ever said anything like you describe, most of them were very humble and hard working. Sadly often they would just keep their head down and work into the wrong direction sometimes for a long time not reaching out to others.

    But if I’m honest, the people from India were as diverse as any other group of people. From very religious from small villages to atheists from rich families. The division between them was bigger then between them as a individual and me a European. They didn’t even speak the same language and had to use English.

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    My general impression is that India are really good at scientific innovation and so on but only because the incredible inequality allows India to channel its resources so that it can be on par with other countries a fraction it’s size.

    If they did the work required to lift the poor regions out of poverty, and sometimes just straight up feudalism, the country would become a proper superpower with far reaching cultural impact but right now India seem to slide further into Hindu nationalism so now it’s more of a worry for everyone else if India became another dictatorship like china.

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    All of this is IMHO so keep that in mind.

    Politically it’s pretty extremist from what I can tell. Not just that but support for that extreme political stance is also rather high. Neithe of which is a good thing in my book. Other news I get to know about also tend to paint a pretty grim picture when it comes to human rights, rich/ poor divide and acceptance of people who have different preferences. I also mostly remember having met people how you described in the opening.

    To say how it is, my opinion is not exactly good. Primarily because of how they act a d their political choices. Though I chalk some of that up to a lack of education. And it’s also not so bad that I’d rather not deal with them. Just that I have a healthy dose of " oh no, not one of those guys again. This will get exhausting, isn’t it" whenever I see someone that fits the description.

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    The things that come to my mind are

    -The country has a set goal to improve in tech industry, aiming to rival big countries like China.

    -The people definetly know their spices. While they use it a bit too much at times, it certainly works well.

    -The country is overpopulated, leading to talented people having harder time to succeed.

    -If you’re watching an Indian man’s tutorial on any topic, you can assume it’ll work well.

    -It has a noticable split in religious beliefs.

    -fuck the remote scammers operating from Kolkata. The people in India also hate these people.

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      Can second the comment about tutorials. It’s amazing how your very very specific problem has a great tutorial, with the worst possible audio, that is perfectly solved by some random dude in his bedroom in India.

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      Can second the comment about tutorials. It’s amazing how your very very specific problem has a great tutorial, with the worst possible audio, that is perfectly solved by some random dude in his bedroom in India.

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      Kolkata and Gurgaon. We fucking hate them. They ruin our country’s reputation even though they are probably just 0.0001% of our country.

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    • Biggest democracy in the world
    • Wouldn’t consider it a world leader, to me it often seems more like they refuse to take a clear stance in world affairs, so they can continue positive relations with authoritarian countries like Russia
    • Rapid development, but still a lot of extreme poverty and inequality
    • Chaotic cities
    • Great food, especially for vegetarians like me
    • Religious extremism/conflicts seem prevalent
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      Wouldn’t consider it a world leader, to me it often seems more like they refuse to take a clear stance in world affairs, so they can continue positive relations with authoritarian countries like Russia

      We are not interested in tying ourselves to backstabbing nations like USA or former coloniser UK. In the 1970s, these two countries sent nuclear submarines to nuke India. We were saved by Russia’s intel. Mother Russia is great. USA also has funded Pakistan for decades, that has housed terrorists that have attacked us on various occasions and killed far more citizens than that insignificant 9/11 thing.

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        Well, it’s not like you’re willing to cut ties with the West and align yourself with Russia either. Instead you’re trying to thread the middle ground by keeping your head down and keeping up trade with both. You’re not taking a stance, which is exactly why you’re not a political world leader.

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          Too bad diplomacy is pinching your little butt so hard. Here is something that will trigger you. I may be wrong though, you probably already support this.

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            It’s pretty telling that you think these pictures would be triggering to me. I’m not a nationalist, I have no problem saying that the nazi regime was horrifying. I have no issue saying that the current government unconditionally supporting Israel is a bad thing either. I’d never pretend the place I live in is the best place ever, or morally superior. Can you do the same?

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              And what place do I live in?

              Anything goes with people that hate Russia. I am okay with believing they can believe in anything horrifying.

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        We were saved by Russia’s intel.

        No, you were saved by a Soviet intervention, led at that time by a Ukrainian man, by ships mostly made by Ukrainians.

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          It was Russia, not Ukraine. You may proceed to cry. And it was Russian intel.

          Did I forget to tell you that you may proceed to cry?

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            In 1971? I’m pretty sure it was the Soviet Union buddy, and Leonid Brezhnev was from Kamianske, Ukraine. As was a majority of Soviet cold war equipment.

            I know that doesn’t fit your political preferences and deep seated need to excuse genocide, but facts don’t care about your feelings.

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              I know that doesn’t fit your political preferences and deep seated need to excuse genocide

              You are projecting your feelings so Indians start infighting with Russia, so that western NATO regime benefits. It is divide and conquer strategy, and we are quite alert about it, having gone through 200 years of it. You are the people comfortable about genocide of Russians and Ukrainians so you could continue to live a more lavish lifestyle in West.

              People like you are the most emotional, living in delusion about being logical.

              India and China have similar stances on matters, as does Russia, to the point India and China are the only countries in the world to sign a pact of not using nukes first. Why do western nations never sign that pact? 1945 Japan vibes?

              Brezhnev was a leader in Russia, not Ukraine. His place of birth does not matter. How manipulative do you have to be to claim Soviet Union and Russia (core of USSR) are not the same, and to delude me with technical nonsense?

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                You are the people comfortable about genocide of Russians and Ukrainians so you could continue to live a more lavish lifestyle in West.

                I am very much not comfortable with the fact that Russia is mass deporting Ukrainians and taking their children.

                India and China have similar stances on matters, as does Russia, to the point India and China are the only countries in the world to sign a pact of not using nukes first. Why do western nations never sign that pact? 1945 Japan vibes?

                Not only has Russia not signed it, Russia is actively using chemical weapons right now, despite numerous treaties about it.

                Russia also signed a treaty to leave Ukraine alone if it gave up it’s nuclear weapons, and look how they are respecting it.

                Brezhnev was a leader in Russia, not Ukraine. His place of birth does not matter.

                Oh boy. You really really need a course in history if you think all the parts were treated the same. It mattered a LOT.

                How manipulative do you have to be to claim Soviet Union and Russia (core of USSR) are not the same,

                Despite Russia’s best efforts, and post cold-war propaganda, they really aren’t. I think the continued fall from Soviet superpower into Russianpetro-olicharchy should be a big hint.

                But, as with most people like you, it’s protection all the way down

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                  Russia is mass deporting Ukrainians and taking their children.

                  Manufactured consent to force kids to die for USA Zelensky Ukraine. Biden has already said it will go down to the last Ukrainian. I am sure you are comfortable with them dying for Zionism/Nazism cause.

                  Not only has Russia not signed it, Russia is actively [using chemical weapons]

                  NATO has said for decades to balkanise and destroy Russia, which is why Russia cannot become such a peaceful nation. Victoria Nuland also told us USA had biolabs on Ukraine border shared with Russia for future biochemical genocide purposes, which Russia swiftly seized. Zelensky even asked for WW3, so he would have used that option if available.

                  Brezhnev was a leader in Russia, not Ukraine. His place of birth does not matter.

                  Oh boy. You really really need a course in history if you think all the parts were treated the same. It mattered a LOT.

                  Again projection of your own insecurities.

                  Despite Russia’s best efforts, and post cold-war propaganda

                  I did not know Russia owned 90% of global media. I was probably wrong thinking CIA, Murdoch, Bilderberg and CFR control 90% of world’s news media that spits venom at Russia/China/North Korea/Iran and other countries everyday for the past century. Thanks for telling me! Please share more beliefs of yours so I can know what all you people think of non-western countries.

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          This thread was also not the place to spread anti-communist propaganda about Russia. But you did not object to that, right? Also why are you afraid about people knowing USA and UK sent nukes for us in 1970s?

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            anti-communist propaganda about Russia

            Anti-Communist? Russia has been a capitalist country since 1989, they’re not even claiming to be communist.

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              Russia has been a capitalist country since 1989

              Damn I did not know the Communist Party of Russia, elected to govern, is capitalist. Next you will tell me western countries claim to be “civilised” and “democratic”, which I can also say is false.

              You were just trying to spread propaganda rhetoric.

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                United Russia is the ruling party since the fall of USSR and is absolutely conservative by any definition of the term. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation, their main political opponent, that is indeed communist, hasn’t been elected, ever.

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                The communist party of Russia is a minority party in opposition, it’s not governing at all. That’s United Russia, which holds over 70% of the seats of parliament. United Russia is not communist. You’re very confidently incorrect here.

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    I really like the food, movies and most people I’ve met from India are extremely nice.

    What I don’t like is the huge inequality, treatment of women and the lack of hygiene in the big cities.

    It’s definitely a country that has been on it’s way up for a while now, things could be really good for India in the future.

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    bunch of daredevils that can somehow cross roads WHILE CARS ARE SPEEDING BY in expert fashion

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    I am myself Indian

    I think most Indians don’t realise how large and diverse India is. Most Indians underestimate how foreign parts of thier own country are in terms of economy, culture, language, food etc.