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In case anyone is unaware of the point of this: it’s about the UK’s (for now) new age verification law, where you have to be 18 to have a credit card.
This really is the least-worst implementation of this I’ve seen so far, providing you have (or can get) a CC.
And at least it lets you continue buying games/content until this awful law gets repealed or rewritten by competent adults.
Are they asking for ID?
Then they’re breaching privacy.
They are using the existence of a credit card attached to your account as a sign of being 18. There were a few posts about this but i guess its easy to miss.
I don’t wanna risk my ID getting leaked in a breach.
It’s not asking for an ID?
Good thing you’re not giving your id, huh?
Should we trust Valve? Why?
What are you trusting them with? Most people have already given steam this information.
Yeah. I mean if they have to do something this is truly the best option. CCA means you must be 18 to have a credit card. Now of course kids stealing, I mean borrowing their parent’s card has always been a thing. But then what would stop them “borrowing” their ID?
I think it’s the best you’ll get in this bizarre time we’re living in.
Oh hey lembot, I see you’re still on iteration 4. When’s 5 releasing?
Anyway, Valve has no interest in the personal data of their users - their ideology has been on providing excellent, transparent service through their store platform, not aggregating and selling user data to the highest bidder.
This change was likely implemented as a compromise with payment processors - the fact that the verification is through a credit card transaction is quite telling.
Have you read their transparent EULA where it states you purchase a license to the game and don’t actually own it?
No we shouldn’t, as Stone Cold Steve Austin once said, DTA, Don’t Trust Anybody! Now give me a hell yeah!
Take yours “hell yeah!”
P.S. Not the slightest idea who the fuck the Stone Cold Steve Austin is.
Not the slightest idea who the fuck the Stone Cold Steve Austin is.
Ditto but I’m going to guess a WWE wrestler by the stupid name
You are correct
The drop down verification was fine.
Screenshot is from here
It’s the best option I can think of, no privacy invasive stuff etc. My only concern would be if it’s good enough. My only problem is that it requires you to have a credit card.
B seems like a huge issue given that there are lots of adults who are not eligible for a credit card.
The best option is no agewalls
There should be age walls for some stuff. What that stuff is and how the walls work is up for debate.
In this situation (a store) using a payment method as the age wall works well. In other use cases it would not be as good.
If you could pass an age wall with no privacy loss, then most people wouldn’t have a problem with it (other than mild annoyance)
IMO: the new law is overreaching, they needed to set up privacy protecting ID verification system first if they were going to go that far. It’s an own goal so far…
I disagree with that. Privacy is not the only reason to be against agewalls, though in its current form, it is a big one. Agewalls are inherently discriminatory, and there is no reason children should not see sexual, mental health support, or LGBT+ content online besides puritanism.
My money’s on this being implemented as a compromise/capitulation to the payment processors Valve’s feuded with. Visa and MasterCard probably asked for this.
Ironically, this means that they are more likely to be used to pay for porn games though…
Oh 100%. But I guess this is sort of a liability thing, Valve saying “Look. We want to sell the porn games and Postal 2 either way. But we’ll verify the customers so you wont get heat for ‘handling the transactions of minors’.”
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