• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    Matter comes first, because consciousness is represented through brainwaves, electrochemical signals, and stimuli from material perception 👍

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      For someone harping about science, you certainly fall for logical fallacies a lot. You keep pointing at the extracted brain, textbook appeal to the stone.

      You are pointing to contents of consciousness to try to prove matter comes prior.

      Maybe take the hint that you don’t understand the argument (and aren’t willing to try) and thus aren’t really equipped for this conversation.

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        This is reddit-tier reverse-atheism, lol. Matter comes prior to consciousness because the brain is a physical organ responding to stimuli as reflected from the material world, a phenomenon further affirmed by the same results happening even from people completely unaware of the other. I think you need to settle down, maybe relax a bit, rather than acting so condescending baselessly.

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          I’ll be as condescending as I please since you’re the one who opted into the discussion with me, not the other way around. You can stop any time, if your ego can handle it.

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            2 days ago

            Nah, you came in here declaring materialism to be tyrannical, when historically it has been idealism used by monarchists, fascists, and liberals to exploit the people while materialism has been liberatory, and used in service of working class liberation.

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              Wow. You really actually believe that? You actually equate non-dual ideology which necessarily posits a non-hierarchial ultimate reality without absolute good and evil with the bullshit of theistic religions?

              Damn I have seen the memes about Marxists thinking they’re way smarter than they are but I thought they were exaggerating.

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                I don’t equate it, but it’s in the same family. I don’t really care how you spin it, dialectical materialism is the liberating philosophy of the proletariat, and any attempt to spin it as “the ultimate tyranny” is just vibes and nonsense.