This community usually discusses consumer rights, but nobody is discussing this initiative. Is it maybe cuz Lemmy’s majority ain’t American?

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    Those businesses give no flying fucks about signals you’re angry; they only care about money. So unless you use the Clippy avatars to mobilise people and to hurt those businesses’ revenues, it’ll do nothing.

    (For YouTube, this means to stop or at least reduce platform usage. After all its revenue comes from ads.)

    Where’s that mobilisation? *cricket noises*

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    Changing your profile picture to Clippy to me seems the same as boomers posting “I DO NOT GIVE PERMISSION TO FACEBOOK”.

    Just delete your account and stop using it.

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    I think Clippy is the wrong icon for this. Microsoft Bob would have been better and it predated Clippy by a few years.! .

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        actually I recognize this one more. I only know about clippy from retro computing videos, but I remember this dog and that sorcerer clearly when searching stuff (now that I mention it, Windows’ search sucks nonetheless)

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    Y know this comment section-and every other i see when this vid comes up- is a perfect illustration of why the left always loses. We would rather criticize everything/anything than DO anything. Who fucking CARES if they care, if the notice, if it matters or affects anything??? Who fucking CARES who/what the mascot is??? The message is something im reasonably sure 99.99 percent of usernames in this particular commie off brand reddit corner of the internet AGREE WITH. Yet. We sit here shouting at each other and arguing over each fucking comment, nuance and semantic instead of doing even the tiniest, most trivial resistance… this more than anything is why the left is so useless and despicable, as a movement. Theyre too busy shooting each other in the feet to notice the race is already over. MORONS.

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      1 day ago

      I agree with your sentiment, but calling people morons isn’t going to win anybody over to your side

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      There’s a lesson I learnt from playing team games: If your teammate makes a bad call that you disagree with, you should still follow them 100%. Going all-in on a questionable decision is almost always better than second guessing each other.

      I think it applies here, and it’s why right wingers and religions are so effective. They don’t care if their arguments are flawed or their leader is a rapist, they’re jumping into that fight every time.

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        Not an online gamer, but I heard a similar sentiment from a boss about 20 years ago. He told me “if you make a mistake one time, I got your back, but we’ll speak in private and I’ll counsel you. Make the mistake again, I’ll let my pen do the talking. Make it a third time, you’re off the team.”

        It escalates quickly, but his management style helped us learn from the mistakes. Sometimes the second time happened. But everyone was willing to go to war with this guy. I mean, proverbially. This was also a guy who would bring his grill to work and cook for everyone one weekend a month. Companies that say you’re family, big red flag. A boss who walks the walk as well as talks the talk? Huge green flag.

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    2 days ago

    From the same business geniuses that though that having you pay a fee to be allowed to pick a seat next to your other family members in an airplane was a good idea…

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    2 days ago

    I’ve seen this posted before, so it’s definitely been discussed on Lemmy before. Reading the comments back then is much like reading the comments here, Clippy does not really seem fit as a corporation fighting symbol and frankly changing your pfp will most likely have no impact to Youtubes management. Why not simply go for a Reddit blackout kind of protest where everyone switches all their videos to unlisted or blocking monetization on their videos (if that is possible)? That will surely get the attention of Youtube.

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      The goal is to show each other we are many. He explained it in another video, the clippy movement actually had an impact. This is simply the first step for organising as a group around a shared idea: using a common symbol. It doesn’t matter what the symbol is, as long as we recognize each other using it.

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      Why not simply go for a Reddit blackout

      Well the whole reddit thing was just a bunch of volunteer mods. On the other hand, many YouTubers make a career out of the platform. Considering their livelihoods are at stake, and the vast number of YouTubers you would need to get on board to make google actually care? Organizing such a thing would be anything but simple.

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        Also the Reddit blackout did nothing. So I’m not why that’s your reference point. Charging pfp would achieve exactly the same. Nothing.

        Americans love their nothing burger demonstrations.

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          The reddit blackout got me off reddit. Well, that and reddit getting rid of third party apps and enshitifying the platform

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          I think the Reddit blackout did a lot, just not everything. I’m here on Lemmy because of it. Granted I’m still on Reddit as well, and Mastodon, and Xitter…

          Just keep plugging along, and every little bit helps.

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        Overall what he promotes/fights for are good things. But in short what I don’t like about him is:

        • he believes to be the morals authority
        • the standards he is advocating for don’t apply to him (for example fighting for open source just to release an app which isn’t open source)
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        2 days ago

        Nothing stands out very far regarding the negatives. I could speculate to a few things, though. He’s not a Socialist. When the going got tough for him and his business he uprooted and moved out of NYC to Texas. I can’t really think of anything else objectionable. I actually like him, though so I may be biased.

        For the positives, he’s helped drive a lot of the Right to Repair legislation in this country as he’s reported a lot of discussions he’s had with real legislators. He runs a website for mac product repair as a reference that also operates as a non-profit. He runs a daytime business repairing mac products that employs several other people. Generally he posts a lot to keep people up to date increasingly as an electronics-oriented influencer, but he used to post mac repair videos almost exclusively and he talked about having to navigate Apple’s influence on regulating the second-hand market. He has also given platform to a number of other mac & electronic repair people.

        To me he seems to talk-the-talk and walk-the-walk when it comes to Right to Repair, but like I said, I might be biased.

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    No, simply because I’ve never commented on youtube, so it’d be pretty useless, if not counterproductive. Giving even more information about my political/tech ethics to Alphabet doesn’t seem smart nor useful in my position. Also, I don’t even watch youtube videos on their website now. I usually use invidious instances or newpipe.

    But I’m not against people doing it, especially if the ultimate goal is spreading awareness and building a community of people with privacy oriented ideas.

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      I’m on the same boat, except for the part about not using Youtube. Unfortunately I’m caught in that spiral where I watch every clickbait_y video about new programming language, new tech stack …ect. Are you able to watch every video normally with invidious and newpipe on Desktop (Linux/Windows) ? My experience wasn’t going that well, also Youtube is so good because of the bandwidth and you easily switch quality.

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        Are you able to watch every video normally with invidious and newpipe on Desktop (Linux/Windows) ?

        In my experience, yes. For desktop usage you can use invidious from browser and freetube [https://freetubeapp.io/] as external client/software (but I’ve never used Freetube so I can’t comment on that). Newpipe is android only and I HIGHLY recommend it if you have Android.

        The problem with invidious instances is that sometimes they get pretty laggy because of server overloads (I guess? honestly idk). You also don’t have your account tailored recommendation, but in my experience you can jump around a lot, especially if your main interest are programming videos.

        Another method I use is downloading the videos I’m interested into using JDownloader 2, but that’s pretty extreme and I relied on this to combat my “algorithm addiction”. Got fed up by it months ago, so I put my favourite channels on a RSS feeds and downloaded only the videos I was truly interested into. Usually downloading videos require way less bandwidth than streaming.

        (edited for spelling errors, eh)

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          I remember using Newpipe before my Android device got stolen, but back then I got recommended so much normie stuff, and comment were flooded with nsfw accounts (weird profile pictures)

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    no. I think Goatse would make more of an impact than Clippy. But something tells me there’d be a problem with that

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      This was surfaced in Sarah Wynn-Williams’ book.

      The social media company likewise tracked when adolescent girls deleted selfies, “so it can serve a beauty ad to them at that moment,” according to Wynn-Williams. Other examples of Facebook’s ad lechery are said to include the targeting of young mothers based on their emotional state, as well as emotional indexes mapped to racial groups, like a “Hispanic and African American Feeling Fantastic Over-index.”

      Facebook Allegedly Detected When Teen Girls Deleted Selfies So It Could Serve Them Beauty Ads

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      Pro-File Picture? I don’t know, people abbreviate things in stupid ways.

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        Whatever happened to calling them avatars? First my PMs got turned into DMs, now this. I’m truly becoming old.

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          PM->DM was a mix of making it more obvious that those were NOT private in the slightest and to better align with marketing (“send a Direct Message to the celebrity you are stalking!”)

          I am not sure when “pfp” took over but I’ve noticed over the past 3 or 4 months a LOT of random requests for a DM on discord of people asking where I got my pfp… which is literally a screenshot from a cartoon in the 00s. So I assume this is related to selling avatars to people on the game social networks?

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          I believe ‘avatar’ was generally changed to match Xbox and others using the term to describe full body digital expressions of the user, like the Xbox 360 avatars. I grew up knowing it as profile picture, but now I’ve changed my social messenger of choice to XMPP I’m seeing it referred to as an avatar again