For those unfamiliar, GrapheneOS is a privacy and security enhanced custom ROM endorsed by Snowden. Despite these big names, plenty of people give it backlash

Even @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml gives it backlash despite being a moderator of Lemmy’s biggest privacy community. A quote here: “grapheneOS trolls are downvoting every single post and comment of mine, and committing vote manipulation on Lemmy. They are using 5-6 accounts.” That was in response to downvotes on a comment posted in the c/WorldNews community, which is entirely unrelated to technology.

One of the reasons is that GrapheneOS can only be installed on Google Pixels due to security compatibility, which makes complete sense considering Android should be most compatible with Google’s own devices. GrapheneOS even lists the exact reasons they chose Pixels, and encourage people to step up and manufacture a different supported device.

One year ago, Louis Rossmann posted this video outlining his reasons for deleting GrapheneOS. Mainly, he had multiple bad experiences with Daniel Micay (the founder and main developer of GrapheneOS) which put his distrust in the GrapheneOS project. Since then, he has stepped down and will no longer be actively contributing to the project.

So, I am here to learn why exactly people still do not like GrapheneOS.

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    Even @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml gives it backlash despite being a moderator of Lemmy’s biggest privacy community. A quote here: “grapheneOS trolls are downvoting every single post and comment of mine, and committing vote manipulation on Lemmy. They are using 5-6 accounts.” That was in response to downvotes on a comment posted in the c/WorldNews community, which is entirely unrelated to technology.

    It seems to me that you might be confusing things: You say that people hate the OS but share a comment complaining about the community of users/fans, not about the OS.

    I have never used GrapheneOS and cannot comment on the OS, but I have seen some users in different communities commenting that GrapheneOS is the only valid alternative OS and discrediting any other OS. It becomes tiring pretty fast.

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      People call me a lunatic, deranged, conspiratorial, and a bunch of other epithets for continuously calling out their dogmatic cultist narrative. I am quoting this from my own investigation on them.

      GRAPHENEOS MATRIX CHAT TELLING PEOPLE TO FLY TO OTHER COUNTRIES TO GET A PIXEL IF NOT AVAILABLE DOMESTICALLY

      It is known among Google Pixel buyers and USA/Canada phone buyers, that Pixels have extremely limited availability by country. The amount of mental gymnastics required for someone to tell they need to travel by airplane to other countries to get one specific phone, if they want to have any privacy and security on a phone, forces me to say this - you need medical assistance. When a community goes ahead to do this, what will be your reaction? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

      Here you go. https://i.imgur.com/Yv9nvxy.jpg

      Please tell me after this that I am the lunatic.

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        What other phones do you suggest that allow signing the ROM with my own key?

      • I did some asking in the matrix prior to buying a google pixel and was pretty much told get a pixel or fuck off. There was one guy who gave actually helpful advice on other is options I had so i think its purely a community thing. Its unfortunate honestly i think any good faith criticism is an asset but unfortunatly the graphene community is too blind to see it that way.

        I want criticism of it cos i want a better is that addresses said criticism I don’t see why some people can’t get that. Keep up the good work.

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        Sorry for the pain. The internet is always harsh and being a moderator can be even more harsh. Please get help if you need it. I and many others would be happy to step in as a mod if you need R&R

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          Thanks a lot, I am good! I thank these people for doing this to me. It has made me more resilient, stronger and calmer as a person. It has also taught me to have more self control in heat of the moment situations.

          Remember, life is a b*. It throws challenges at you. It can sometimes even make you a heretic ready to be burned. Learn from challenges and life. It teaches a lot of things for free. Have gratitude and love yourself. I still have a lot of work to do on myself, but I always try helping, teaching and warning people about many things (you probably see me talking about everything).

          Sometimes I do feel burnt out and hate the fact that many just try to discount all these things have happened, even though I have spent years investigating privacy/FOSS community. Sometimes I have felt like quitting. It’s tough, but I am holding out, and trying to find someone who is like me who can handle privacy community, while being knowledgeable on atleast equal footing. Really trying to see to it that Lemmy is left in good hands.

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        Hey there, I’m sorry about this craziness. My comment was not really directed at you, but I was just quoting part of the original post that mentioned you.

        I was trying to suggest that OP is confusing criticism of the GrapheneOS community with criticism of the OS. You make a good point and, as I pointed out, you were not criticising the OS, but the community. Not the same thing.

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          No, I can smell the intent from anyone at this point. It takes a bit of crazy to tackle the crazy, you know. You did not direct it at me, I know that. I was just trying to tell the people that read these comments, that how bad things are. People really think this project is the best thing to happen to phone privacy, because so much dogmatic propaganda dissemination has been done. https://imgur.com/a/fpcsIL2

          I also criticise the project itself, because for arbitrary reasons it is only available on Google Pixels, and it is mostly a rebranding of AOSP features and kdrag0n’s project put on top of AOSP. It is a deep rabbit hole. I did a dissertation of what it is a year ago. https://i.imgur.com/pQHoq84.jpg