One of the biggest topics of these days is that of mods in lemmy.ml banning and censoring people because they’re Tankies. This has had a rather sizeable discussion of people agreeing and even arguing for defederating ml. I’m sure a lot of people are arguing from good intentions, but there’s also bad faith actors among them, as I will try to show in this post. The original post was based on the moderation history of the ml instance so I respond in a similar fashion.

I browsed through the discussion for a while, and stumbled upon a comment of someone who had created an instance in response, namely de_ml@lemmy.blahaj.zone The original post in about the moderation in ml has to do with the Tiananmen Square Massacre, so I decided to make a few posts in this new instance about other historical facts which are less discussed, but that we should remember too, namely the Bengal Famine and the US support of fascism in Spain.

Initially these posts were well received and had some upvoted, but after a while I got a notification that one of them had been banned. To my surprise, I looked at the mod log of the instance and found this. So, both posts being about historical atrocities committed by capitalist countries were either banned or locked, and I had been banned from the community altogether for the reason “commie?”

I checked through the admin’s history of comments and found this.

Is this admin, who censors posts that talk about historical grievances committed by capitalism, who pins “fuck Tankies” to the instance, really a person without an agenda trying to protect a community from a supposed malignant moderation, or is it someone with an agenda trying to call everyone to the left of centrism a Tankie?

We should, in my opinion, be careful with accusing and polarising one of the biggest communities in Lemmy away, which is full of non-political content, and really examine what’s going on and what agenda there is behind it.

  • MrSoup@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    5 months ago

    Politics is endangering the whole Lemmy, with instances defederated because of their political views and a lot of censorship.

    Calm down folks! This is a web forum, people should be free to share what they think (without harassing anyone) without being censored, creating a biased platform.

    I’m not into non-free-speech instances (like lemmy.world), but I do understand and respect their decision because it MAY decrease harassment between users. But please don’t defederate with everyone otherwise it would still be a biased platform. Let people choose what to see and just ban spam and real harassment (I’ve used too much this word).

    I’m not into politics myself and it drives me crazy that we can’t rely on fine communities because they are on instances defederated by big instances because of their political views.

    • Blaze@reddthat.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      5 months ago

      Indeed, defederation as the instance level should really be a a last resort, especially now that we have user-level muting of instances.

      I’m not into politics myself and it drives me crazy that we can’t rely on fine communities because they are on instances defederated by big instances because of their political views.

      To be honest it’s not always politics, Beehaw didn’t defederate for political reasons but lack of moderation tools

    • PugJesus@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      5 months ago

      I’m not into politics myself and it drives me crazy that we can’t rely on fine communities because they are on instances defederated by big instances because of their political views.

      I didn’t realize genocide apologia and using admin powers to push it was such a minor concern.

    • fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      5 months ago

      People should be welcome and free to discuss just about anything, authoritarian governments and their propagandists should be kicked the fuck out.