In order to be able to Further configure my system, I am looking for a fork of my current OS (artix with openRC as init system) in which i am able to compile every package from source in order to Further configure it with make flags. I am currently not using gentoo, and because the packages in its default repos are only updated when necessary, and the break-my-gentoo repo is more of a joke than an actual replacement for arch. However, if someone can recommand me a repo with similar package updates as arch, I would be looking at installing gentoo.
This is kinda the opposite of what you’re asking for, but might address the reason that you’re asking the question?
CachyOS is an Arch based distro, but it precompiles many arch packages (and some AUR packages) in several versions, optimised for either x86_64-v3 or x86_64-v4.
So if your goal is “optimised” rather than “compile yourself” it might be worth looking at
Gentoo. Not an Arch fork, and uses OpenRC by default. I use it and love it. Best package manager or there, imo.
You can still get binaries of the really annoying things to compile, like Firefox. Otherwise, it’s all source-based.
Follow the handbook. https://www.gentoo.org/get-started/screenshots/
Just use Gentoo. Do it from scratch on the command line without the GUI installer like a pro 👍
At the very least you’ll learn how everything works at a deeper level.
That is indeed my plan, to learn more about Linux by using complex Distros and learning how to use it.
It kindof seems like what you’re looking for is Gentoo. Any reason why you’re reticent to go that direction?
Not sure, but you can get a very similar experience with fork as follows:
Step 1. Download and install arch.
Step 2. Go to kitchen and grab fork.
Step 3. Jab fork into you eye ball socket
“Awwww”
Most AUR packages that aren’t prefixed with “-bin” are compiled on your system. Most distro packages have AUR counterparts, but they’re usually git builds, so using them for every package you can will probably just break your system.
Also, the Arch repos are pretty much just an “AUR with binaries” - they contain the same PKGBUILD files used by AUR packages, because that’s how Arch packages are built. So you can just download an Arch package PKGBUILD, modify it however you wish, and then build and install it.
If you are looking for a distro similar to Arch where you can compile everything from source you can just use Arch. https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arch_build_system
Disclaimer: I have never used this feature so don’t know how easy it is to use, but I do use Arch which is how I know it exists. (I use Arch btw)
Fellow Arch user here (btw). It’s exactly the same as building AUR packages. Clone a git repo containing a PKGBUILD, use
makepkgto build it, andpacmanto install it. The nice thing is you can host a repo of your built packages and install them on other systems really easily. The big downside is that dependency management is not automated, so it will take some time and annoyance to map out what packages you need to build and in what order, if you want a fully source-bootstrapped system.
Whats wrong with Gentoo?
funroll-loops
Does sound like what youre looking for is gentoo. Packages may be a little older than arch, but its a rolling release too. You get new stuff fast
It sounds like Gentoo is literally exactly what you want.
I am currently not using gentoo, and because the packages in its default repos are only updated when necessary, and the break-my-gentoo repo is more of a joke than an actual replacement for arch.
I’m sorry, but I am genuinely confused here.
Gentoo can be both stable and bleeding edge and allows you to mix and match on a per-package basis.
Does setting
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64"globally not make things bleeding edge enough for you? Grab*-9999packages instead.I did indeed not know that you can do such thing, thank you for pointing this out to me.
You could try Guix! It’s ostensibly source based but you can use precompiled binaries as well (using the substitute system)
It’s a source-first Functional package distro like Nix but uses Scheme to define everything from the packages to the way the init system (Shepherd) works.
It’s very different from other distros but between being functional, source-first, and having shepherd, I personally love it
