cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/34272214

A California-based biotechnology startup has officially launched the world’s first commercially available butter made entirely from carbon dioxide, hydrogen, and oxygen, eliminating the need for traditional agriculture or animal farming. Savor, backed by Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates through his Breakthrough Energy Ventures fund, announced the commercial release of its animal- and plant-free butter after three years of development.

The revolutionary product uses a proprietary thermochemical process that transforms carbon dioxide captured from the air, hydrogen from water, and methane into fat molecules chemically identical to those found in dairy butter. According to the company, the process creates fatty acids by heating these gases under controlled temperature and pressure conditions, then combining them with glycerol to form triglycerides.

  • ptolemai@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    16 hours ago

    There’s a term for that high-carbon butter-like substance. Migraine or something…

  • jabjoe@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    19 hours ago

    This could be great, but “proprietary”. Gates is still the same Gates. If you want to save all the land and CO2 this could, release the IP free to all. Flood the market with cheap indistinguishable synobutter, real butter can’t compete with. Milk, cheese and yogurt next please.

  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    20 hours ago

    I’m not a scientist, but isn’t EVERYTHING made of carbon?

    Source: Joni Mitchell, Woodstock -

    We are stardust, we are golden We are billion-year-old carbon

  • Captain Poofter@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    22 hours ago

    but does it actually taste like the real thing? because I can already buy something that, supposedly, I should be unable to believe isn’t real butter, but after doing so I remain suspicious

  • betanumerus@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    23 hours ago

    Butter backed by Bill Gates? Is that the same Bill Gates who became wealthy and famous for his commanding knowledge of butter?

  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 day ago

    Of all things…butter! I’m sure it’ll be more expensive than real butter with the way things work nowadays.

  • PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 days ago

    So when I poop the carbon butter out, how long does it take to decompose? Because unless we make one of those nuclear waste containment salt bunkers for all. the butter carbon poop this kinda seems like a dumb idea.

    • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      1 day ago

      I can see why some people might conflate Carbon Monomers and Carbon Polymer Chains with plastics, because thats what plastics are after all, but it’s also the basic building block for almost all organic chemistry including proteins, fats (lipids), sugars, alcohols, and sugar alcohols (totally different thing from sugar and alcohol btw). Carbon can even form compounds with Ammonia, such as Carbamides like Urea which can be extracted from Uric Acid using Sodium and then used as agriculture grade fertilizers.

      It’s why we’re called Carbon Based Lifeforms.

      If you think that’s crazy you should see all the wacky shit that Hydrogen gets up to.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 day ago

      Atoms are atoms. All they are doing here is artificially creating fat molecules rather than getting them from the environment so the decomposing time is not affected.

  • Krudler@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 days ago

    This is really about how we feed our species and heal our planet at the same time

    Yeah we need more fat. That’s what’s gonna help. More fat. Who owns the Olestra patents and how long until they purchase the artificial fats patent?

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      2 days ago

      Honestly, I think we do need more fat. Everyone seems to be obsessed with less fat and more protein, but fat is an essential nutrient. If you want to lose weight, I recommend increasing your (healthy) fat consumption because you’ll get more satiety per calorie vs carbs, and fatty foods are more likely to have protein than carbs.

      If artificial fat can replace dairy or destructivly farmed veggie oil, I’m all for it.

      • Krudler@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 day ago

        You don’t have to preach nutrition to me, I cook everything from scratch.

        The problem here is that obese societies are already over-reliant on fat, so making it more available and cheaper is going to be self-destructive.

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          1 day ago

          No, they’re overly reliant on sugar. If you look at what obese people eat, it’s tons of carbs and fat-free nonsense so they feel like they’re doing something good.

  • UltraBlack@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 days ago

    From the description I cannot in a million years assume that it tastes anywhere near butter. And where’s the buttery taste going

  • nkat2112@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 days ago

    Thank goodness we have the assurances of a billionaire oligarch to help steer humanity in the right dietary direction.

    • flightyhobler@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 day ago

      Problems come up: “BILLIONAIRES SHOULD DO MORE!” Billionaires do more: “WE CANT TRUST BILLIONAIRES!!”

      • Frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        23 hours ago

        The conclusion ought to be that billionaires shouldn’t exist. Even if they donate most of their wealth, they will still donate in ways that aren’t necessarily solving real problems.

      • SippyCup@feddit.nl
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        23 hours ago

        Ruminants creating greenhouse gasses is a problem that can solve itself by returning to huge fucking pastures and cooperative farming.

        Instead, we’re getting synthetic food. We’re a decade removed from human grade kibble at this point.

        Here again, capitalism is the problem. A capitalist offering capitalism solutions to problems created by capitalism isn’t appealing.

    • teuniac_@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      2 days ago

      Global warming and ecological crises make shifting diets away from animal products a pretty good idea.

      Whether it’s antibiotics resistance, deforestation, or greenhouse gas emissions, humanity is paying a very high price for animal agriculture at the current scale.