I recently set up Sonarr and Radarr on my home server and I’m loving it.
However, I don’t get why you would ever use Lidarr. Why would you ever download music using torrents? You can use tools like spotdl and yt-dlp to download songs from YouTube music and Spotify, it’s faster and more reliable; I have had some issues finding torrents of music from less-known artists.
To me it seems like it would be much better to have a tool like Lidarr or have support in Jellyseerr to download music from common streaming services.
What are your views on this?
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Quality. YouTube audio leaves somethimg to be desired… Spotify though… I never heard of that tool so thanks.
FYI SpotDL also downloads from YouTube, it just reads Spotify playlists.
I guess lidar also sorts music for you, like radarr and sonarr does with Movirs/Series.
Game or anime songs are often not available in their full versions on YouTube or Spotify. Also better sound quality.
Lidarr also supports Usenet
FLAC files - better sound quality
I’ve also had issues with Lidarr not downloading anything - For example, I tried downloading music from the artist
NF- which I don’t think is a particularly niche artist - but Lidarr didn’t download anything. What indexers do you use to download music?I think you basically need a private tracker for lidarr. The arr suite is mostly targeted toward collecting media of a particular quality and will sit on its hands if what it finds doesn’t meet that standard
Music is also not well represented in the public indexers, so it’s not surprising it doesn’t always find what you’re looking for
Personally I don’t download music. I rip my CDs but I do know that some streaming services don’t offer as high quality as CDs hence my comment.
The right Deezer Downloaders have Flac tho
YouTube and Spotify don’t have flac or alac filetypes.
IIRC, Spotify added FLAC recently
I see a lot of news of it “coming soon” and leaks, but not an official release. Do you have more info?
Just looked it up, it doesn’t seem to be available yet
This is the only thing I could find on it. Seems it’s still in testing.
Hopefully soon though!
I will be surprised if Spotify won’t announce a new more expensive HIFI subscription with their support for lossless audio. Imo this still makes it less interesting than Tidal/Deezer/Qobuz since it’ll still be impossible to permanently download music from Spotify.
Nonetheless it’s great that Spotify will provide lossless audio for those who want it.
Similar here, but I don’t do google and I hate Spotify lawl. I do download for my collection, but I’ve also subscribed to Apple Music because I don’t wanna fuck around with putting music on my phone, I mostly use my phone for podcasts.
But I just for some headphones that use spatial sound and holy shit is that fantastic. I have like five nice pairs of open-back fancy headphones and now I’m using my probudz all the time because it makes your music sound 4.5D and you can look around if you want and it sounds like you’re at a concert
I’m in the market for fancy headphones. What do you recommend? I mostly listen to flac tracks ripped from CDs and also would use headphones for watching movies from Jellyfin. All done at home.
HEAVILY recommend Sennheiser HD560s.
I love my Grados and other Sennheisers and I’ve tried some others that need amps, but I always come back to my 560s. They’re the best price for performance of all I own. If you’re patient, I got mine for 180USD.
BUDGET? Looove my Grado SR80e. Under a hundred bucks for some REALLY nice sound quality.
These are all open-back, so you’ll get a really good soundstage but they’re not great for loud environments. But damn do they sound good.
Perfect! This is exactly what I was looking for. I’ll pick up a pair of the HD560s when it goes on sale. Thank you so much for the recommendation!
Absolutely! I also love my pair of 599, they’re much less expensive retail but I can really feel the difference in the 560s (weirdly named, the 560s are superior). I think I paid 130 for the 599s.
The 560s have slightly better sound quality but they feel much better to wear for long periods of time. That all said, the sound quality difference is very very small for flacs, so if you find a good deal on 599s and you’re not wearing them for 6-10 hours straight (which I sometimes do) then you can totally save the money.
Both pairs don’t rest on your ears, and they both have ONE cord going to the left ear. My biggest complaints about my beloved Grados is they DO rest on your ears and they have cords going to both ears, which get all wound up and touch my chin/cheek which my ADHD ass does not appreciate the tactile…ness of.
As an aside, my partner isn’t an audiophile and I had them listen to my favorite headphone-testing-song (Tipper’s “Cuckoo”) in flac, with my 560s. I started the song and they’re like “I’ve heard this song before” and by the end their eyes were DRIPPING. I never realized sound could be so… extradimensional, and it really hits goodly.
Quick edit: oh and the Sennheisers have removable cords which can lock in, which is amazing because they come with a shorter cord and a LOOOOOONG cord you can switch out as you like.
It seems there’s a 560 and 560S, and they look very different from each other.
Just to make sure, are you referring to the 560S, or the 560 in plural?
Yeah the 560s sound perfect. I’m very excited now. Thank you!!
If you remember me, please let me know how you like them! And listen to cuckoo.flac and feel the little sizzles that tickle your ears and be like mmmmmm that’s some sizzles
if the music is older, and not from the US, it’s often not on spotify. Versions matter too - even for some mainstream bands their B sides/acoustic/live versions just aren’t on spotify or youtube. Album metadata for spotify is garbage too - it just isn’t an adequate replacement for a record collection.
I do use a spotify subscription, but for me it’s a tool for playlist generation and music discovery.
Also audio quality, as others have mentioned.
I use Lidarr to watch for new releases and try to get some bootleg albums, while main way of getting things is trough some websites or just pulling stuff from qobuz directly.
All the music is FLAC with a small percentage in mp3 320. also, man sometimes wants to get that 300GB discography pack with 6 different releases of the same album 😁
- quality
- organization of files
- proper metadata
- extras like photos/other images, lyrics, links, etc
- community (on various torrent sites, mainly)
- not being reliant on a company and centralized servers
- someone paid for the album… band made more from that one sale than how many streams of it? Lol 😐
- commands are crowding my CLI history. Lol
It depends what it is and maybe I’m not savvy enough but, I find it easier to use bittorrent still.
Some things are easier to find on YT or X streaming service so, I’d say multiple methods these days are necessarily depending on what one is into.
To that end, I think we need to just reach out to bands and point them to a primer on uploading their music. Additionally, more people need to go to shows and start creating high quality torrents of smaller, more independant bands. As well as people creating torrents or torrent packs for the stuff that gets ripped from the other sources.
I’d go one step further and say pirating music is too big of a hassle in general. Apple Music and Tidal do loseless compression, have huge catalogues and are so dirt cheap I don’t understand why you’d make your life so hard on purpose. Once effectively unlimited mobile data became a thing music piracy lost most of its purpose.
I dowload my flacs via soulseekqt. sadly torrent is not cool for music anymore…
I used to pay for Deezer used and a variety of downloaders to download FLACs from them, but then they seemed to break that at some point and a ton of metadata was borked. Also, some artists who were on a bunch of different labels only ever had stuff from just one label on there, which meant a trip to the torrent sites/Soulseek anyway.
I just gave up and went back to Soulseek and RuTracker for my music after a while.
Because some music is not available on streaming platforms. Occasionally artists and labels decide to split their ways, and suddenly their older albums are gone. Over the years I started losing notable chunks of music I like from my playlists.
Not only that but the original mixes of albums often don’t get put on streaming platforms because of licensing bullshit or whatever.
And especially for rock and metal the newer remasters of popular albums tend to be pretty bad and overly compressed or have weird post EQ added.
Pretty much only pirate when something isn’t on QoBuz.
You sort of asked two different questions there. Generally I don’t torrent music these days, though I have done in the past (Audio-4U, for example). I do use P2P methods like Soulseek for some stuff but predominately I rely on direct downloads through DoujinStyle.
In terms of why I pirate, it’s because I can’t afford to buy all my music and streaming services offer inferior quality, catalogue size and revenue to the artists. I’d rather manually curate my own offline collection and put the money I would spend on a streaming subscription directly towards an artist whose work I particularly liked whenever I can afford to do so.
