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No. Not even slightly. Fifteen years ago reddit was still far bigger and more active than the fediverse.
Here there’s barely any content today, back then I was regularly getting 30+ pages deep into reddit when I couldnt sleep most nights, and I wasn’t even close to the end of that days content.Yeah and here I can scroll through all the new content in less than an hour.
Lemmy now is like when Reddit was like slashdot
Which was when Slashdot was like BBS before the Eternal September
Kind of. Reddit 15+ years ago still had a larger user base than Lemmy did, but it feels kind of close to how Reddit did back then. Lemmy still needs some work, it has a long way to go, but I do like it so far.
I am a much different person today than I was when I started at reddit so many years ago, so that might have something to do with my assessment, but –
Federated social media today is like what reddit was maybe eight years ago. Fills a hole, bearable, occasionally really good, but still a lot of shitposting and propaganda. Ten, twelve and more years ago, reddit was a really good place. As above, maybe it’s because I was younger then, maybe it’s because the world has changed so very much in the meantime. I’m sure those play into it, but in any event, it was better then than the fediverse of today, content-wise.
We need a new meme style to explode and the small communities to grow, then we’d be there.
Not really, it’s way more decentralized than reddit.
And there is a lot less users.
And a lot less people posting “what’s something that used to be cool, but isn’t now?” posts every single day. It’s gotten to the point where I can usually guess what the top answer will be.
“users” is plural and countable so it should be “are” and “fewer”
You really need to be ‘that’ guy
I was doing this on Reddit 10 years ago, so…
You keep at it, buddy
Context.
Here it’s being used a singular group of things.
Like, a herd of cows is a singular thing made up of lots of individual things.
If you lost 50% of the herd, you wouldn’t say you had fewer herd
You’d say you have less of a herd.
But language is what we make it, it’s why the rules are blurry
Here it’s being used a singular group of things
It’s not singular, “users” is plural. “A group of users” is singular, but “users” is referring to multiple individuals. The correct verb to use with users is are.
For example, you would be incorrect to say “There is users online”, but you could say “There is a group of users online”.
Your argument is supporting the comment you’re replying to. “Users” is equivalent to “cows” in your example, not “herd”. If you lost 50% of the herd, you’d still have a herd of cows, but you’d have fewer cows, just like there are a lot fewer users in this instance.
Herd is closer to userbase. Lemmy has a userbase; Reddit has a userbase. Lemmy’s userbase has a lot fewer users than Reddit’s.
“users” is a singular group in this context.
“There are a lot fewer users” is the proper grammar. You wouldn’t say “There is users online”, you’d say “There are users online” because users is plural. “There is a user online” would be singular.
It’s not, but even if it was, the original comment would be grammatically incorrect.You wouldn’t say “You have a lot less herd”. “Less of a herd” would work, “Your herd is a lot smaller” would work better, but it was written originally as though ‘users’ was a collection of individuals, not a userbase as a singular item.
Both may be correct depending on the speaker. English has exceptions to everything… I learned that from a European.
Eh, if you go back far enough, there was a time when reddit had fewer users than the fediverse has now.
I was on reddit 10 years ago. Different vibes than old reddit for sure. Still way less users on Lemmy.
Mm yes, reddit started with out with tens of thousands of users over night.
I think the situation here on lemmy is pretty comparable to early reddit. People forget it started out as mostly a nerdy programmer centric site as well, and then grew from there. It’s a bit jarring to see people here insisting on artificially creating communities and pushing/guiliting people into posting more just to bring the numbers up. “the narwhal bacon’s at midnight” (although it was always cringe) started because reddit was a niche site less known than 4chan to begin with, so it was just a nonsensical dog whistle.
Do I miss the focused subreddits around specific topics? Sure, but I also think they will come naturally with time if lemmy survives just as they did with reddit. And the whole reason we’re here today to begin with is because of an unsatiable hunger for growth.
I guess I meant more of community/user feel? Whenever I browse reddit (w/o account, don’t hurt me) the popular is full of AITA, AIO and such.
Reddit didn’t have the communism and far left propaganda that lemmy has, so it’ll be an uphill battle to clean that shit up enough to get lemmy even remotely close to where Reddit was 10 years ago.
Incredible what it looks like outside your bubble huh? Lemmy has different instances so everyone can build a community without nearly as much potential censorship like Reddit. This is the community that naturally formed, so maybe what you call “far left propaganda” the rest of the world calls “normal”
Naaah… that’s not it. Lemmy is just as susceptible to propaganda as Reddit ever was. And if you think there isn’t outside influence happening here, you’re as blind as they get, or part of it.
The rest of the world doesn’t call shouting at people to not vote during elections “normal-“ yet is all over lemmy.
So, let’s not define normal by what we want to see. Mmmkay?
Found the beehaw instance user.
Found the Hexbear instance user.
Original. Found the copycat insult.
Cool story. Found the troll that has nothing to add to the discussion aside from snarky insults.
Stay mad 😡
The crowd here is kinda weird. But I like em for their humor so far.
It’s so fascinating, how some people create their own narrative, in their echochamber of a head, and then project it onto everyone else.
Please go touch some grass
That’s part of the reason I am here. You could just go to some place like Exploding-Heads but there’s a reason so many instances defederate from them
No. I’d say the whole internet felt different 10+ years ago. Including this, what people are on here and how they behave. And I’d day the average intellect is different. But that could also be me growing up.
It’s different but the same. We used to get hit by the conservative bury brigades. Now, we get people actually trying to steer the narrative with somewhat thoughtful bad faith arguments.
It’s far more insidious now, and takes vigilance to shut down.
Never will be what Reddit was or is, because it’s based on federation and defederation.
yup. helps that there’s no spez and no r/jailbait too
I did miss the original dark humor of r/imgoingtohellforthis, before it turned into people just posting outright racist and homophobic garbage.
The humor is way more redditty on lemmy. Which I realize sounds nonsensical, but a huge portion of lemmy users are former reddit users who both think reddit humor is funny and have like 10 years of reddit humor memes to draw on. The “early” (2012ish) reddit I’m remembering had less of that and a lot more of what current users would consider cringe, like f7u12 comics. And a lot more general weird nerd awkwardness… like the frozen soap post.
Reddit as it became mainstream turned more into 9gag where everyone is just doing the same jokes for best results. Whenever you have some sort of score, you will have people optimizing for that.
Because in Lemmy upvotes don’t matter so much, I notice that there’s less pressure from people to rehash and repost memes and jokes.
I can look at the earliest posts and comments on my account from 10 years ago and cringe at my past self. I’ll definitely be able to do the same with this account in the future haha
Rage comics aren’t cringe. If anything, a lot of modern memes are just reskins of rage comics.
Honestly miss rage comics, most of them were pretty cringe and reskinned 4chan greentext but there was a surprising amount of creativity and humor that could be put into them when people were doing more than just following a formula for imaginary Internet points.
Thinking of things like the time someone did the entire Bohemian Rhapsody song in rage comic form.
Rage comics at least took some thought to put together. I still think they’re pretty cringe but they’re way better than replacing the text on a tired meme template and calling it content
A lot of early reddit humor was 4chan/9gag humor though.
Oh yeah, don’t get me wrong, I’m definitely not saying that reddit was a bastion of original comedy. It just didn’t have what I would call reddit humor at that point in time because that took a decadeish to get to where it is now.
I started regularly using Reddit in 2013 and r/funny was general low quality spam from there sites, with A LOT of reposts, basically all content was the same content on loop. r/adviceanimals was huge and was basically a mashup of shower thoughts, jokes, off my chest and general opinionated statements, and it was huge. r/f7u12 was big but already seen as declining and cringe.
The humour here isn’t just Reddit style, the enormous amount of shitpost humour here is reflected in basically all “taking to chronically online strangers” community on the internet, from twitter to discord etc. I’d say shitpost humour outweighs all the other humour in this site.
What Lemmy absolutely does have in common with old Reddit is the userbase being a bunch of trekie programmers. It used to be tech support on their office computers and now it’s software developers on their home Linux machines but the way people talk and act is really similar. In old Reddit days, it was so easy to assume that whoever you spoke to was in work that it was the normal assumption, and you’d see a massive uptick in porn on r/all when evening hit in America. Summer Reddit was a name given to the school kids who’d suddenly swarm the sites in the summer holidays during office hours, and the average age and humour had a noticeable shift.
Lemmy now feels like a site of similar in their 30s but they don’t have 9-5 desk jobs where they browse Lemmy all day, so the hourly and daily trends don’t really align like they used to, now it’s all the classic trends at once as teenagers use Lemmy on their phones in school and work from home means people are shitposting and jerking off all day and night.
Reddit in 2010-2012 also had a lot of really insufferable atheists everywhere. Someone would say something like “thank god everyone’s ok” and get downvoted while a bunch of people replied stuff like “if god is responsible for them being ok, then he would also be responsible for the crash and shouldn’t be thanked at all”.
That sounds soooooo tiresome.
Believe or don’t. I don’t care. Just don’t get on a soapbox about it.
As a queer trans dude who grew up in a deeply southern baptist community in the rural south, nobody is ever going to be able to make me care about atheists saying mean things about Christians online ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I maybe didn’t use the best example, but it was less about people actually being religious and instead if they used any sort of popular phrasing that had any slight religious element they would try to turn it into a religion debate.
A better example is that someone might post a polish word, someone else would reply “bless you” acting like the polish word was a sneeze sound, and then the 14-year-old atheists would descend and start a debate.
You were very clear in your comment. Look at the instance of the person you replied to…
Sorry my PTSD and instance choice inconvenienced you.
I don’t get the cynism, I never implied any of those things. My heart to you on dealing with the trauma, really.
Most people on blahaj seem to have similar problems however and it makes for strange interactions, like this one here. I’m not sure how pointing out you probably were not thinking clearly in the comment above is bothering you so much. I mean, you’re even the one talking about PTSD I reckon, not I.
Good luck with everything, hopefully you can read this before overzealous mods decide to delete it too.
On one hand, it clearly showed me how much theist bullshit exists on both my culture and the internet anglicentric one.
On the other hand, it makes me see very clearly how much I don’t care about the origins of culture instead of its immediate values.
I definitely remember some of that and being annoyed by it; sorry for misunderstanding your first post, I’ve run into a lot of people who are weirdly defensive of how society being more overtly Christian back then was good, when it was absolute hell for some of us.
This is the best kind of people coming to an understanding.
I was probably one of those insufferable idiots for a while, as I was still new to atheism at the time. Now I don’t really waste energy on that stuff. Nobody cares. It’s just being annoying. Reminds me of another trend that’s happening today… but I’m not about to point that out.
Vagueposting is lame. Either say something or don’t. Don’t call attention ot what you’re not saying.
Lemmy has its own version of that with self declared “leftists”
I feel like Lemmy has WAY more crazy political views, like extreme leftist and BoTh SiDeS people. That’s probably more of a symptom of Russian propoganda across the wider Internet that wasn’t as prevalent 10+ years ago.
We barely talked about politics at all back when the great Digg migration happened. People were interested in far more fun things back then.
Hmmmm, I remember heaps of people being into Ron Paul because he wanted to legalise weed, and Bernie is a perennial favourite
This also depends on what instances your instance federates with though. You could go to an instance that defederates from the more politically extreme instances.
I think it also depends on what communities you interact with.
I got fed up with it in the Lemmy.world news community and unsubscribed. I’ve been much happier following that change.
There are still some leftist and both sides hot takes I run into … but it’s a much more acceptable pacing now.
a symptom of Russian propogandm
There it is. All you needy to say really.
TIL that egalitarianism and saving humanity from unrestrained capitalism is extremely left.
Way smaller.
It’s probably better than old Reddit.
Just keep in mind you’re participating in a federation of communities controlled by the many. Although Lemmy.world is probably the largest by far.
There’s no jailbait, no upskirts, no fatpeoplehate, so Lemmy is still better
Right why would we want to be that
no upskirts 🤣
you must have NSFW filtered.
There was a subreddit where people took upskirt creep pics of random women, not models. If that’s happening somewhere on Lemmy I hope our instance is federated with it. Porn is one thing but that was awful.
Don’t forget about all the gore subreddits like /r/WatchPeopleDie
That was banned a while ago.
To be fair, we’re talking about Reddit ten years ago.
And when that was banned, we got eyeblech and NSFL__
https://lemmy.world/c/upskirtbabes
Someone made this and apparently abandoned it.
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !upskirtbabes@lemmy.world
I miss those. And eyeblech. I wish Lemmy had some of those.
I used to be against those, but then it kind of shifted for me with all the cartel videos. It brought to life the horrors of what they are doing to normal people.
While it’s not for everyone, that stuff does have its place. Reddit banning all those subs when the Christchurch shooting happened was stupid.
Wow, I was there for the others but I wasn’t aware of an upskirt trend. If it’s what it sounds like, seems like a crime
“Consent” was not a popular topic on early Reddit. Or the internet writ large, I guess.
I think it got banned around the same time as the jailbait sub. Reddit was and is a cesspool
I miss fatpeoplehate.
I wonder how the shift from Reddit to Lemmy compares to the shift from Digg to Reddit.
Lemmy has a much smaller user basis
I forgot about Digg. Whatever happened to it?
They had a site redesign to garner more monetization.
They also had power users who dominated post and drove the control of conversation. (MrBabyMan?)
They forced a UI change that everyone hated, so everyone fled to reddit, thus crowning Steve Huffman, a dirty little piss boy.
