A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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    California is strictly better than every red state in almost every measure. They literally hate it because it directly disproves their worldview that conservatives are good for the economy.

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    From what I can tell from up in Canada, it’s a more ‘liberal’ leaning state according to their metric and they don’t like that.

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    Lookng at Cali might give them cognitive dissonance so they get upset like the mean dumb goblins they are.

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    What’s crazy is that, by pure numbers, CA is basically tied with FL as having the second most republicans in the country—at around 6 million.* Only TX has them both beat. Conservatives really do shit on the 2nd/3rd largest enclave of republicans in the country 🤣

    *Based on the 2024 US election turnout—not registered republicans

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      Imagine what California could accomplish without having to fight the rural Republican anchor dragging shit down constantly due to their propaganda.

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        Many of them briefly leave, hate it and then come back and continue to talk about how much they hate California. And to them I say: please leave, we have enough people as it is.

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          the LA are has alot of those, youtubers i used to followed moved during pandemic to VEGAS, and thier business is based in LA for reason obviously, who wants to do business in vegas. at the sametime railing on cali, they complain about nevadas lack of services.

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        As a Californian I’ve spent decades watching CA Republicans whine about California then…stay.

        I just laugh in their faces now. You’re here because it’s California and you know it’s good. I’m not going to entertain their empty whining. I’ll just laugh at them while they enjoy the weather and all the other cool shit they complain about.

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    The people who tell conservatives what to think have indicated that California is bad. Why is it bad? They made some progress on a few things, and we can’t have that. It’s why we can’t have nice things like affordable healthcare and breathable air.

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    Everybody loves finding things in common with other people.

    Since California is percieved by the right to be a “liberal stronghold”, it is easy for them to bond over a shared hatred of it. Regardless of whether or not that hate is based in fact.

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    It’s the fifth largest global economy…

    It’s hard proof that most of their policy is complete bullshit, because if they were right, liberal social policy and taxes would have chased all the wealthy away.

    But it doesn’t, because people want to live in places with that kind of policy

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      California is a monument to the total debunking of right wing social ideology

      It plus New York fund the existence of the red states

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        Oh dear, I have to post it again:

        Fuck the south

        Look at the economies of southern red states. They’re fucking garbage and they turn out some of the most reprehensible personalities in our country. Pathetic.

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          I had a hard time getting the page to load, so I’m just gonna copy fuck the south here for anyone else that can’t load the page:

          *November 3, 2004

          Fuck the South. Fuck 'em. We should have let them go when they wanted to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they’d stay part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves - yeah, those are states we want to keep.

          And now what do we get? We’re the fucking Arrogant Northeast Liberal Elite? How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The Authentic America. Really?

          Cause we fucking founded this country, assholes. Those Founding Fathers you keep going on and on about? All that bullshit about what you think they meant by the Second Amendment giving you the right to keep your assault weapons in the glove compartment because you didn’t bother to read the first half of the fucking sentence? Who do you think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt sporting revolutionaries were? They were fucking blue-staters, dickhead. Boston? Philadelphia? New York? Hello? Think there might be a reason all the fucking monuments are up here in our backyard?

          No, No. Get the fuck out. We’re not letting you visit the Liberty Bell and fucking Plymouth Rock anymore until you get over your real American selves and start respecting those other nine amendments. Who do you think those fucking stripes on the flag are for? Nine are for fucking blue states. And it would be 10 if those Vermonters had gotten their fucking Subarus together and broken off from New York a little earlier. Get it? We started this shit, so don’t get all uppity about how real you are you Johnny-come-lately “Oooooh I’ve been a state for almost a hundred years” dickheads. Fuck off.

          Arrogant? You wanna talk about us Northeasterners being fucking arrogant? What’s more American than arrogance? Hmmm? Maybe horsies? I don’t think so. Arrogance is the fucking cornerstone of what it means to be American. And I wouldn’t be so fucking arrogant if I wasn’t paying for your fucking bridges, bitch.

          All those Federal taxes you love to hate? It all comes from us and goes to you, so shut up and enjoy your fucking Tennessee Valley Authority electricity and your fancy highways that we paid for. And the next time Florida gets hit by a hurricane you can come crying to us if you want to, but you’re the ones who built on a fucking swamp. “Let the Spanish keep it, it’s a shithole,” we said, but you had to have your fucking orange juice.

          The next dickwad who says, “It’s your money, not the government’s money” is gonna get their ass kicked. Nine of the ten states that get the most federal fucking dollars and pay the least… can you guess? Go on, guess. That’s right, motherfucker, they’re red states. And eight of the ten states that receive the least and pay the most? It’s too easy, asshole, they’re blue states. It’s not your money, assholes, it’s fucking our money. What was that Real American Value you were spouting a minute ago? Self reliance? Try this for self reliance: buy your own fucking stop signs, assholes.

          Let’s talk about those values for a fucking minute. You and your Southern values can bite my ass because the blue states got the values over you fucking Real Americans every day of the goddamn week. Which state do you think has the lowest divorce rate you marriage-hyping dickwads? Well? Can you guess? It’s fucking Massachusetts, the fucking center of the gay marriage universe. Yes, that’s right, the state you love to tie around the neck of anyone to the left of Strom Thurmond has the lowest divorce rate in the fucking nation. Think that’s just some aberration? How about this: 9 of the 10 lowest divorce rates are fucking blue states, asshole, and most are in the Northeast, where our values suck so bad. And where are the highest divorce rates? Care to fucking guess? 10 of the top 10 are fucking red-ass we’re-so-fucking-moral states. And while Nevada is the worst, the Bible Belt is doing its fucking part.

          But two guys making out is going to fucking ruin marriage for you? Yeah? Seems like you’re ruining it pretty well on your own, you little bastards. Oh, but that’s ok because you go to church, right? I mean you do, right? Cause we fucking get to hear about it every goddamn year at election time. Yes, we’re fascinated by how you get up every Sunday morning and sing, and then you’re fucking towers of moral superiority. Yeah, that’s a workable formula. Maybe us fucking Northerners don’t talk about religion as much as you because we’re not so busy sinning, hmmm? Ever think of that, you self-righteous assholes? No, you’re too busy erecting giant stone tablets of the Ten Commandments in buildings paid for by the fucking Northeast Liberal Elite. And who has the highest murder rates in the nation? It ain’t us up here in the North, assholes.

          Well this gravy train is fucking over. Take your liberal-bashing, federal-tax-leaching, confederate-flag-waving, holier-than-thou, hypocritical bullshit and shove it up your ass.

          And no, you can’t have your fucking convention in New York next time. Fuck off. *

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      It ain’t perfect (cost of living has always been relatively high, even for states with comparable cities), but it’s far and away better than any red state to my knowledge.

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        less gun violence rates, compared to red states. one of the favorite things to rail on about california is the gun violence, and they always misinformed. despite having a larger population with gun violence its less than places like texas.

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      I think of a fertilizer factory built across the street from schools that blows up. Or people freezing to death when their power goes out. Or getting a bill for $5,000 because they didn’t freeze to death.

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    Because California stands for many, many, many, many of the things they oppose without evidence to back up their claims: Supporting LGBTQ+, better Social programs, limited religious freedoms, run by a bunch of “liberals”, etc. etc.

    And yet, it’s the 5th largest economy in the world, and the vast, overwhelming, majority of funds for the USA.

    They hate that California works, because it disproves pretty much all of their talking points.

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    Since nobody here is giving any actual reasons and just putting up straw men, let me give you the real reasons.

    Crowded and high cost of living.

    And because politics, those two points extend into lots of homeless (crowded) and “liberal initiatives” (cost of living). But it’s always rooted into crowded and high cost of living.

    But what about large cities in the red states? Yes, the same is said of those. Crowded and high cost of living.

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      What conservatives alsp forget is their own system of capitalism they worship is what drives its high cost of living. People want to live there. If there wasn’t a demand to live there, cost of living would lower.

      More homeless are seen in the west coast states also because the climate is more hospitable, and the governments and people a little more so, too. Also because right-wing media magnify the problem.

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      These are “I don’t want to live there” reasons. The hate for California that right-wingers have is “this place shouldn’t exist” type hate.

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      The OP asked about the state, not cities. There is a ton of cheap land here. There are also tons of different sized cities with different housing costs.

      You said others were offering straw men? What is this?

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      Why is it crowded there? It’s expensive because it’s crowded, so why is it so crowded? Do people actually want to live there or something?

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    It represents everything they hate. CA ain’t perfect, but it’s got a lot of good stuff going for it. Especially that monster economy.

    I like to rag on our state to the south friend-o, but it’s outta love for the pnw. You keep doing you because it fucking pisses off the Pedo Party and that’s awesome.