• Jaded99@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Good!! Porn is rotting ppls brains anyway. The mental illness of this generation is astonishing. Social media is brain rot too and they wonder why anxiety and depression/loneliness is on the rise, while watching women be spat on, smacked and abused.

    • Axum@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      6 days ago

      Totally missing the point like an idiot.

      But yes let’s let the USA set the rules for content in other countries by means of government regulation and pressuring visa to become the morality and wrong think police. What could go wrong???

    • AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      6 days ago

      I don’t think you’re understanding the issue here. It’s not a “porn is bad” issue. It’s a foreign government dictating how a service that is not hosted in their country is run issue.

      If you think Florida has any right to dictate how a French company is run then idk what to tell you. Florida has no jurisdiction in France.

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        7 days ago

        Let me guess you’re just watching all the “tame” step mom videos? I heard those ones are healthier than the step dad videos. Coom on… it’s good for you and your pp. Definitely won’t get addicted and want harder stuff down the line. Enjoy

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          7 days ago

          Bang on, damn, you got me so good.

          Is this really how you carry your arguments? Demeaning and projecting over your opponent? I guess you’re safe from all that insane porn now since you’re failing the ID check for being underage.

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            6 days ago

            Should I argue in a respectful way with ppl who defend their urge to splooge over human well being? 🤣 news flash in a good world porn wouldn’t even exist which literally means those women do not want to participate in porn but they have almost no choice, a lot of them are addicts, have no caring family, trafficked, trying to keep a roof over their head, been recruited since childhood. It’s abuse, exploitation, pure harm against ppl who have lost everything already. Please see the suicide rates of pornstars most of you are watching dead ppl hide the sausage. Both men and women kill themselves btw.

            It’s disgusting that you ppl can’t find healthy ways to enjoy sex. Look at all the ppl defending porn in the comments.

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              6 days ago

              Cool man, fyi generally you want to avoid projecting assumptions on people and listen instead to their actual point. You’re not arguing with caricatures, you’re arguing with other people who might know as much or more than you do, so the preachy tone isn’t doing you any favours in trying to convince people.

              A big argument against this type of blocking is giving up private information to private entities to access content that can be tracked back to them is a huge risk for privacy, it doesn’t matter if it’s porn or something else, you can see it in the UK too where speech about Palestine is being blocked by the same ruling that is “protecting children”. Someone else here also raised a good point, why is it on these websites to implement age verification and not on the state, when many of those websites aren’t hosted in Florida?

              But no you’re not interested in a good debate, you just see a political choice that aligns with your views and anyone who has issues with the implementation, consequences, or any other issue (including a porn ban in general) is treated like the worst of the worst. “Surely this is a morally good thing, so all who oppose must be morally abhorrent”, except this is exactly why the lawmakers prey on when they implement surveillance type shit all in the name of “protecting the children”, they make it so arguing against it is seen as protecting abusers when the same resolution could be reached in a way that doesn’t infringe on people’s privacy.

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                6 days ago

                You think we have privacy??? hahaha It’s too late for that now. You’re all already on a list somewhere. This is not full on censorship, it’s not a black and white issue. The open internet and the dark web needs to be regulated for criminal, abusive, exploitative content. It’s for the good of humanity in the long run. Big brother needs to save you all from yourselves. The male loneliness epidemic is already reaching crazy numbers and so is abuse against women and children but nobody in the manosphere wants to address that. As long as they can keep crusting in moms musty basement.

                It’s sick 🤢 I know of men who have become so addicted to it that they watch it at work and harrass their female co workers and every female around them. I see it destroying heterosexual relationships daily. I am very anti religious but please do inform me what good does porn bring? In what way is it healthy?

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                  6 days ago

                  It’s entertainment and it’s been the backbone of technology evolution like it or not, read more here: https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/617469885 and I think people who enjoy to be part of that content (where legal and not abusive) deserve a platform to share it with like minded people.

                  I do agree that the abusive content should not be allowed on platforms, but that’s already illegal in most places. Further policing is just infringing on people’s rights of doing what they want with their bodies. “My body my choice” isn’t just about pregnancy it’s about anything a consensual adult should be able to do without being judged for it.

                  Fundamentally though it doesn’t matter what the excuse is, prohibition never works (see war on drugs and the actual prohibition period in the US) and it leads to more people finding this type of content on websites that are not under the eye of the law, which are more likely to host abusive and illegal content. Sex and masturbation are normal for people, and have been part of culture and art for hundreds if not thousands of years. There are ways to enjoy it ethically (as we have for decades before OF) and we should pursue that, but consider for a moment that the problem is not sex and pornography itself (because we’ve had erotica in anything from medieval paintings to fine art photography), but the economical factors that push platforms to highlight it more and more and people to get into it for a quick buck because it sells and makes them money. Social media is nowadays full of onlyfans creators advertising their profiles, and who can fully blame them when the economy is in shambles? But really that has a way bigger impact on male loneliness than porn itself, they just bombard you with ads and ads to see explicit content even when you don’t want to, and that’s rewiring people’s brains.

                  Because, and I’ll entertain your puritan view for a second, where does it stop if we block porn outright? Is nude photography illegal now? showing a nipple? Uncovered belly or feet? How far will we have to go for the brain addled vices of a few people? And this is all just bandaids, because as I said before, the issue is not porn, it’s those taking advantage of it to sell as much of it as possible even at the detriment of people’s mental health. There is space for nuance.

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      7 days ago

      I get where you’re coming from, upvote for contributing an opinion. But I think you’re overestimating the impact of this legislation. This is not ever going to stop internet porn consumption, that boat sailed 30-years ago.

      Also, social media is fucking us (heh) worse than porn ever did, not even comparable.

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          7 days ago

          Lmao I had to look up what that term even means and saw that it comes from 4chan, which just goes perfect with my impression of you from the rest of what you said earlier. You obviously don’t realize how much you’re giving away about yourself here with your language. You might as well have started this off by telling us you’re talking about “your friend.”

          Hmm let’s see, a dude who hangs out at a site that’s world renowned for being the home of the sad, lonely, self-hating individual who’s here to give us his hot takes about “this generation” and all “their” preversions. Please regale us with more tales about the deepest thoughts and actions of people who are complete strangers to you. What kind of sick and twisted stuff are “they” watching right now?

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        7 days ago

        This isn’t social media as most understand it. My wife sometimes gets bent as to what she sees me writing, doesn’t understand that you and I neither know one another nor care to.

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        7 days ago

        I have a massive block list on connect to filter out the brain rot. I still want to read the tech news and keep up with the times. I am not coco meloning myself with tik tok and the likes and I am most certainly not watching hide the sausage 🌭 that’s pure brain damage.

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            6 days ago

            How do you know which actors are drugged up, which are trafficked, which may secretly be underage, who was coerced or manipulated, which are willing, which are faking, which are there because otherwise they’d be homeless, which are being abused off camera, which are being raped?

            There’s no way to know any of this.

            Do you think what you are doing watching it is good and good for you?

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          6 days ago

          if you need a block list, means you cant control yourself with social media or porn, shame on you for being a hypocrite.

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            6 days ago

            I block the unwanted bull 🐂 that men pay money for and keep fuelling until it reaches all our algorithms. Eg. only fans, porn, cake sitting, drinking OF girls bath water, crime, violence, abuse, andrew tate, jordan peterson, Bonnie Blue…all that sick stuff men pay for that I don’t want on my feed.

            Even the news websites are filled to the brim with male perversion.

            Y’all are making OF girls millionaires!