All recommendations are welcome. In particular how to vibrate a two part mold without it breaking apart. I did not weigh the mix and water, but i suspect i used too much water. Also added about 2% plasticizer.

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    Haven’t vibrated it enough. 100%. But it’s interesting because your void distribution is pretty consistent… im guessing you vibrated the mould rather than the mix.

    Your problem is not mix consistency, it’s entrained air. Mould vibration (esp with a small mould) is not good at removing entrained air.

    Try a needle vibrator on your next one. Maybe an old tooth brush?

    Edit: don’t forget to treat your forms. You want to apply specialised compound to reduce adhesion between concrete and form, so when you strip forms, pockets of uncured mix don’t ‘pull away’ from your piece.

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    The vibration required is pretty serious. If you look into how they make concrete bricks you need a lot of force and control for the frequency to make it effective.

    https://digitalcommons.calpoly.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=1024&context=mesp

    I used this as a basis designing a table to vibrate epoxy-concrete molds for machine tools. You’d want the dildo attached to a hammer drill style vibrator for small scale application. https://i.imgur.com/RcIcqk1.jpeg I used a steel plate here, 2hp Craigslist motor, bicycle tubes, rubber and wood. My plan was for larger molds…

    That, and the aggregate ratio also being the two critical parameters. Edit: the whole requirement is also dependent on your needs. You can change a lot if you don’t need serious strength to better target surface finish.

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    Hi. I’m a refractory designer. I have over 30 years of experience in creating linings for industrial furnaces with bricks and monolithics, including what we would call ‘Precast shapes’ of which this would be included.

    Those are definitely air pockets stemming from the pour that were not vibrated out. It could be your aggregate size is making it difficult. I don’t know the product you are using, but often there are ‘fine’ versions that feature a smaller grain size just for better consistency when pouring. I would never recommend gunning something like this.

    As far as vibration goes, they sell industrial vibrators with long rubber mixing tips. I might have video from a few of my precast shapes showing a large precast shape getting vibrated. Everything about it just screams dildo and you feel silly, but it is what it is, and it does work.

    You’ll know if you add too much water. It will be brittle and fail if you can even get the mold released. More water is never a solution. Better PH is superior to more water.

    Vibration can be achieved by building an outer box for your foam insert. Wood can work for something this size probably, but metal would be best. You can then use any vibratory method that works. Pour direction matters too, but it opens ugly doors like lifting and drying.

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      The next one did only get slightly better :( I vibrated it something like two minutes with the saw. Could it be bubbles forming from the mix? Maybe something about the plasticizer? Anyway i kinda don’t want to keep redoing this, i’m thinking about filling the holes and using it anyway, though it might crack due to freezing temperatures at some point i guess…

      // Edit: specified that it was maybe slightly better

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      Thank you for the elaborate response. The second batch is now vibrated a whole lot more than the first one and i weighed the mixed beforehand. It’s just a premixed bag for setting posts i’ve used. 0-8mm. It’s really a pleasure to see the concrete vibrate into place. I am curious whether i’ve now also vibrated the pour down between the two parts of the mold too… We’ll see in a few days i guess.

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        The grain size is small enough. and you appear to be pouring upside down (thumbs up). I think all along it was only the vibration. You may have a breakout. Hard to use last pour for a volumetric comparison if the mix ratio changed. Yeah, I hope it went well.

        Weighing and adjusting for temp/ph is also key. These control the chemical reaction and thus the end result.

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      I guess it’s because i vibrate the mold and not the mix directly as others have suggested