• AquaTofana@lemmy.world
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        Okay you just need to stop pursuing higher education lmao.

        I graduated with my associates in 2008, which is how I ended up joining the military later that year.

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    The economy is always bad. The idea is to make people feel insecure and desperate so that they take on more/worse work for less pay. They’ll use every excuse under the sun, from “we can’t afford to pay workers” to “AI could do your job” and it doesn’t matter if it’s true because there are fewer companies growing larger who control so much of the employment landscape that they can unify against workers and make it so.

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    As someone born in the early 80’s, just for once I’d like a nice, boring decade. Pretty please.

    Saw the fall of communism, the Balkan wars, 9/11, the rise and fall of the internet, the dotcom bust, the 2008 financial crisis, Arab Spring, Brexit, global pandemic, war in Europe again, US politics, middle-east still fucked as usual. And then there’s climate change to fuck over everything in general.

    So yeah, I’d love a decade where nothing happens. Heck, I’ll take a boring six months at this point. Gimme a fucking break.

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      Well yeah you could also go like that backwards in time. Iran kidnap crisis, OPEP, cold war, hot wars ( proxy and ww i, ii) and so on and so on.

      At least 1st world was steadily growing and improving since 1945, almost uninterrupted (yep, crisis in 1st world are amateur levels). If you were NOT born in 1st world you have to add corruption levels you can’t imagine, economy rollercoaster that makes 10% inflation look like an utopia, and CIA destabilizing your country every single time it starts catching up.

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        We didn’t start the fire comes to mind. Things have always been crazy, welcome to life since the dawn of society as we know it.

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      Every generation could have a “We didn’t start the fire song.”. It is just politics and the human race on repeat, until it can’t or won’t.

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        A young salmon swims downriver searching for an ocean he has never seen. Eventually the riverbanks give way to a vast blue expanse. He approaches the first fish he sees and asks them where he might find the ocean. The other fish replies

        “You’re in it!”

        The salmon shakes his head.

        “This? This is water. I’m looking for the ocean!”


        The character building and customization never ends, but it’s also not something that has to be a burden. The way school and such introduces things like reading and learning or physical activity is sometimes very damaging because it gives you this impression that these things have to be work, that it’s all about deadlines and what you can get out of them instead of enjoying them for the sake of the thing.

        Suffice it to say if you’re waiting to one day start your life and become who you want to be you’re missing the point. The journey is supposed to be the focus, don’t wait to start living for some lofty time you’re allowed to begin building the life you want. Start the journey for it now and find passions to savor along the way. Life doesn’t begin at 20, 30, or even 40, you just get different content so you might as well make the most of the fleeting window to enjoy the things that make life at your age special.

        A long ramble, but I hope it conveys my point. Good luck!

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      I started working in shops around 2000. I’m so fucken over it.

      Learn a trade, may not always pay great but you can always find something.

      Live below your means, assume you could be laid off at any time. If you’re able to buy a house, don’t buy too much house.

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    Most millennials graduated shortly after the crisis of 2008. Its a major reason so many of us are unusually much much poorer than the average Gen Xer (who are only somewhat poorer compared to Boomers).

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      Isn’t it more so that boomers in western EU and USA had an exceptional easy time? Everyone before, after or elsewhere less so.

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        IDK, maybe. I’m no expert. I would imagine it depends on how globalized the market was during Boomer’s 20’s and 30’s.

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      Yep, got out of school right in time for a recession.

      Changed paths, got certified as a pharmacy tech. You can work for a year without being certified as a pharmacy tech, so I was applying before I ever had my piece of paper. I didn’t receive my first call about any of those applications until 2012.

      I never found work in that field, and left my home state for seasonal work. I later came back home and crashed into a two year depression. Like, clinical emergency intervention depression. Not sleeping, not eating, not bathing, all that shit.

      This time Trump is at the helm. I have no hope. I have no faith in the country I was born in to do the right thing. I assume the military oath all service members take will be forgotten under a banner dripping the blood of “undesirables”, and chants of MAGA.

      Makes me fucking sick.

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      Older millennial here. Economy took a shit right as I was getting out of college and into the workforce. Good times.

      My friends and I weren’t financially stable-ish until our mid-30s. And by that I mean we were able to start buying some name brand stuff instead of the knock-offs. Felt like we were kings. But only if we had a significant other to split the bills with.

      I’m tired and I don’t care about this country anymore.

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      Yeah. It sure was “fun” competing with people with decades of experience and advanced degrees right after graduation. I hope that our generation and those after us are able to course correct and undo the bullshit that Boomers have inflicted upon humanity.

      Note: Not generation war (no war but class war) but unfortunate reality. Boomers overwhelmingly supported neo-liberal politicians that to pulled up the ladder behind them and robbed future generations in exchange for short-term gains.

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        I decided to finally do my masters in biotech after a decade in data engineering got me to have some savings, mostly because I did want to do one eventually.

        Man, these kids don’t know what’s waiting for them. None of the companies in biotech are hiring, as in their career pages are empty. LinkedIn, Indeed and the usual suspects only throw up listings which are obviously just staffing orgs fishing for data to sell. I feel there is a similar break in the industry with the pandemic, nobody is hiring people just graduating, the barest minimum is 5-6 years of experience.

        I’m seeing some of the best minds in Europe here, doing something that is both hard and useful science, I mean we just had a worldwide pandemic and this masters should be extremely relevant for that, and apparently the system will not let them work in their field.

        Only way out is academics, on barely-decent, you-will-never-have-a-house-much-less-a-family wages. If they can get in to the limited number of exceptionally “well” paying PhD slots, for 40-45k gross. They may earn as much as me doing random bullshit internal tooling two years ago for a bank that went bankrupt since if they can get tenure as a full prof at a good uni in like 30 years of hard work.

        This is bullshit.

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          And here I am going to get a MA in Archaeology lol.

          It’ll work out hopefully. I have been gainfully employed in the field off of just my BA, but Trump has basically ruined that job

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            Don’t give up your dreams, it’s shit everywhere, you might as well do something that interests you while getting fucked by the system like the rest of us.

            Option two is to do tech pretend-work for some big corpo for six figures, and check out of the workforce and find fulfillment somewhere else.

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          This is exactly why I ended up in tech, despite actually getting a degree relevant to biochem/industrial microbiology. I graduated during the height of the Recession and decided not to go into academia, despite my love of data and research, because they stopped hiring tenure-track at most institutions, replacing them with adjuncts with minimal pay and benefits (even for academia) and poor bastards on the post-grad treadmill.

          I fucking hate it and know that I’m not the only person who has been forced out of a research career by these objectively harmful-to-humanity economic policies.