President Donald Trump says he has ordered the justice department to produce additional documents related to sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
“Based on the ridiculous amount of publicity given to Jeffrey Epstein, I have asked Attorney General Pam Bondi to produce any and all pertinent Grand Jury testimony, subject to Court approval,” he said.
It’s unclear if Trump is authorising the public release of these documents. Such action would typically require court approval.
Yeah Bondi, slap together some more doctored BS to tell whatever story you need to tell. Maybe more “raw unedited footage” pasted together and missing 3 minutes.
Prepare for fake documents. Finally People can read this moron like a book. Lies and fake shit.
Or, more likely, heavily cherry picked.
See, there’s nothing incriminating in THESE documents, so you can trust when we say that there’s nothing incriminating in the rest of them, either.
Didn’t they already do this? And found nothing?
Please let this backfire spectacularly
It won’t, they’ll produce a bunch of falsified documents implicating everybody but TACO, and half the country will accept it as gospel.
Yeah, this sounds like “make me a list that I can use to target the rich people that don’t like me”.
It sure won’t satisfy any of the conspiracy theorists. This has been steeping for too long and imaginations have been running wild. Whatever they produce will never live up to the bombshell people are now expecting.
I don’t see how it could possibly help him. It’s just going to keep the story in the media, longer it stays in the news cycle the bigger it snowballs.
Distraction from something worse, probably.
This distraction rhetoric is fucking stupid. They are doing a lot of bad things at the same time so you cant focus on all of it at once. they don’t care what you’re focusing on just that not everyone is focused on the same things so a group is harder to form. It’s why we (the left) need to keep hitting on the list. It’s clearly a weak point and there is blood in the water so we need to keep pushing. There are some MAGA that are waking up because of this.
I see your point, but it still feels like press bait to me. Is there any way what gets released can be verified to be authentic? I have seen one or two MAGA supporters speaking out over it, but I have serious doubts they won’t return after a trivial capitulation like this. What I’d love to see is engagement from people who didn’t vote, I want to see protest crowds getting bigger. I understand your frustration, but I think it’s valid to try to absorb the other news as well.
I don’t disagree with trying to absorb other things that wasn’t what was intended sorry if it came off that way.
I think I a piece piece of evidence is that the right wing news orgs are still talking about it after they were told to stop. Their own audiences turned against them enough that they have to keep talking about it. I forget who said it but one said that they trust the people in the white house to take care of it and his own comments dragged him for it.
There are also some people I know personally that have genuinely been shook by this.
Thanks for explaining! That’s very encouraging.
What’s worse than the President of the world’s most influential nation being part of a child sex trafficking scheme? Other than nuclear war, which would be pretty hard to distract people from.
The deportation of democrats and lefties and undesirables and the deaths of those cut off medicaid/care and starving kids, oh, yeah, and the nuclear war.
Back of the mind worry/conspiracy theory:
You really thing trump suddenly changed his mind about putin after 40 years? Trump arms Ukraine, Putin gets mad, nukes a blue state trump fulfills his promise “blue states will disappear from the map”, Q gets their great solar flash of 2025, and welcome to hell.
I guess it doesn’t really need to be something worse – they have full control over the narrative, and the WH clearly won’t actually release anything meaningful, so keeping it in the news is a huge attention magnet with practically no downside. Maybe an extra week of all other news getting buried is worth it. Maybe it’s a favor to that CEO who got caught cheating at a Coldplay concert. I get the impression that when he does something weirdly out-of-character it’s a misdirection, so I’ll look at page two of the news for awhile.
Anyone that already hates Trump isn’t distracted by this. If anything it’s only making people that voted for him become more suspicious of him and take criticism of him more seriously.
This isn’t a distraction. This is Trump absolutely failing to control the narrative with his base for the first real time.
Because even MAGA voters are ok with burning down the government if it’s true that our two party system and the billionaires they work for are literally protecting pedophiles. Which I don’t think many people doubt at this point.
MAGA just had the delusions that somehow the sex pest billionaire was on their side.
I see what you mean, and I hope you’re right.
they played thier cards to early, tariffs, bbb , ice/deporations now they have nothing to distract MAGA with.
The funny thing is that we are only here BECAUSE they played the Epstein card so early. They could have literally not released anything about it and most of their base would have probably been ok.
They promised a lot and then did a 180. Made them really suspicious.
the bbb being very disastirous, trying to make thier inbreds forget about the harm it does in the next few election, thought people would ignore the epstein lists this time. also tariffs/ lack of tourists are hurting red states so they needed a distraction, and of course the MSMs wont report how bad it is currently in those states, so the need for a distraction is the key.
More likely let it stay in the media and give them boring shit until something else catches peoples attention.
The key word is pertinent:
Pertinent
n. Anything that doesn’t portray Trump in a bad light while simultaneously harming is perceived foes.
Plus, the Grand Jury testimony is only a small fraction of the ‘files’
*a.
Stupid choice. Why say anything at all really? Just release whatever you are going to doctor and call them the files. This just makes it look like he is pulling shit out of his ass to satisfy the base.
But if he didn’t make a big public announcement how else would Charlie Kirk have something to advertise to all the people at Turning Point U.S.A. who are starting to ask too many questions
Conservative commentator Charlie Kirk, who was critical of the administration’s handling of the files in recent days, praised Trump’s move. “This is massive, this is something that we’ve been talking about for quite some time, and really a power to the grassroots,” he said.
Wow…
So when the Dems try to force the release of the files after the president promised to release them then tried to go back on that promise, it’s “all for political show.”
When the Trump administration picks and chooses what breadcrumbs they will toss to the public (after already releasing edited footage and lying about it and insulting his own supporters), it’s “power to the grassroots.” 👑
produce any and all Grand Jury testimony
How specific.
List aside, did I miss why we aren’t still talking about the 3 missing minutes and Adobe edited surveillance footage of the prison?
Because “flood the zone” is an incredibly effective tactic against Americans who can’t stay focused on something longer than one day. Each time something horrific comes out in the news they can just tell people to look at Trump’s ankles instead. Oh and then we get a very professional doctor’s opinion that Trump is the greatest, healthiest president we’ve ever had with the physique of a college athlete.
its not even an original idea from bannon, it comes from russia, firehose of falsehood, flood the news with so much chaos that people cant concentrate on one thing.
That was like a year ago on a political timescale. Old news.
Does it exist today or not? I lose track sometimes. Is there an easy way to remember?
The standard cult method is to follow a nazi douche like Charlie Kirk and uncritically repeat whatever they say verbatim.
I hate to say this, but Epstein/Trump stories feel like the real distraction. It’s long been known that Trump is connected with Epstein, that he’s a certified sex pest, and that he’s creepy about kids (including his own daughter). It’s been default knowledge that Trump is a pedo creep, yet people seem to think that even smoking gun evidence will make some sort of difference.
Almost nobody will seriously change where that stand based on anything that could possibly revealed. On the other hand, the economy is in shambles, the government in shreds, and there are actual fucking concentration camps that people are getting disappeared to.
There is too much horror in the moment for me to fret so much about these horrors from the past. Epstein will not harm anyone else, but unknown high level child sex rings will. Everyone around Epstein getting revealed will not bring retribution to many culprits, nor will it change the root causes of such unaccountable abuse.
I could see it being a distraction but also feel like this should just be added to the growing list of things people should not let go as midterms approach and the administration tries to redirect the narrative of reality. Don’t let them.
Its a lot to keep up with, but in no particular order, as a direct result of this administration and Republicans in the House and Senate:
•Rich pedophiles are now an officially protected species
•Trump tried to insult and neg his own supporters into dropping the Epstein list
•Economy is in shambles and projected to get worse
•Over 100 Americans suddenly dead in Texas due to severe flooding and cuts to warning systems that were in place until Trump took office (Republicans are seriously trying to blame this on “weather manipulation”). Similar disasters very likely to follow.
•After other disasters in other loyalist red states, emergency funding was withheld or delayed due to a lack of coordination between the white house and FEMA (with Trump’s own pick leading things, last I heard he was on vacation and MIA following the TX floods)
•Energy grids and local water supplies are being strained all over the country by the very stupid and very expensive AI data factories being rolled out across the U.S.
•Giant Palantir surveillance database being created to keep tabs on all Americans. Don’t forget that over the last 6 months: -ICE has been given the greenlight to break down doors without a warrant -Trump openly admitting he’s not sure he has to follow due process -Trump dismantling the office of Human Rights and Civil Liberties that was created as a direct result of government overreach on behalf of the patriot act -There’s a very fine line between what Trump can do to handle immigration and what he can do to any and all American citizens in the name of “domestic safety.” That office is in charge of ensuring that line didn’t get crossed, and if it did ensuring there would at least be documentation about it available through FOIA.
•Trump knew about Netenyahu’s planned bombing of Israel, publicly lied about it, said he didn’t want a war with Iran, but then randomly just decided to start kicking the hornet’s nest
•Millions of Americans are losing their healthcare (in particular rural Americans and Trump’s own voters are being hit especially hard by this) in order to provide tax cuts to wealthy elite
•Even the ultraconservative Cato institute has criticized Trump’s planned spending on immigration laid out in the BBB (over $1 trillion dollars on deportation spending seems a kinda ridiculous when you can’t find the budget for Americans to have Medicaid)
There’s more, but just a few things off the top of my head.
It doesn’t hurt so long as we don’t expect it to have much effect. I also don’t think the midterms will make a difference, even if Republicans lose every possible seat in an absolute blowout. We’re in a dictatorship 6 that’s featuring domestic death camps 6 months in; violence against opposition is not unimaginable.
the bbb has set a time bomb, when the cuts and taxes will happens, its to make sure they get another term
Midterms are definitely important as far as putting some brakes on the crazy train.
There was plenty the Dems didn’t do that they should have done when they had their chance, but when you look at something like vaccine roll out under Trump, the way it went once the Senate subcommittee on COVID was formed, was not the way Trump was planning.
Before Dems got involved, Trump had already been making plans to give a private pharma company government contracts. As bad as COVID in 2020 was, it definitely could have been a lot worse if Trump had been allowed to run wild.
Here’s a nonpaywalled version
TLDR, he was planning on completely privatizing and patenting a vaccine, that wouldn’t be affordable to the majority of the country. Shit would have been horrific.
Not to mention the company he would have contracted with ended up having a lot of quality deficits due to bad manufacturing/production issues. So the vaccine they would have made, which would have been insanely expensive, also would have been dangerous bc of the shitty quality.
Democratic oversight after the midterms is the only reason why we had the private-public rollout with the NIH handling safety and research and Moderna and Pfizer handling rollout.
This is also why Trump has taken away the NIH funding given to Moderna by the Biden administration for an up to date bird flu vaccine, and why he is so set on destroying public funding in science and safety oversight.
We’re in a dictatorship. You can’t compare his last administrations to now. He’s destroying every check on his power, doing blatantly unconstitutional things, preparing to ignore anything the legislature might do to hold him back. You just don’t understand the level of fucked we are, nor do you get that there’s no electoral path to stop him.
Well I guess all we can do is curl up in a ball and not vote. Probably for the best 😉
he needed distraction on how bad the BBB was, epstein files kinda backfired a little.
“Produce”, as in “fabricate” or “forge”
Springtime for Hitler
it would be heavily redacted of trump, or any of the donors.
[cutout of female figure for birthday card]
The letter, according to The Wall Street Journal, allegedly ends with the words: “A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy Birthday – and may every day be another wonderful secret.”
“These are not my words, not the way I talk. Also, I don’t draw pictures,” Trump said on social media in response to the story.
“Is that your fucked up scrawly signature in the crotchtal area representing pubic hair?”
“ . . . . . No”
Page after page of Lorem ipsum…
Y’all are getting too hung up on the word “produce” when the real issue is that a grand jury transcript is a miniscule subset of the documents people actually want to see.
