I know they’re supposed to be good for the environment but… God I hate those caps.

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    6 months ago

    Yes, that is mildly infuriating. Someone deliberately going to additional trouble to increase the a kind of microplastics in the environment and make it harder for the poor folks in the recycling plants.

    Get over yourself

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    I’m honestly so confused as to why people care. I honestly barely notice the difference

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      6 months ago

      Depends on what you drink. On a smoothie the thicker liquid will cling onto the lid while you drink until just at the moment then drip onto your clothes.

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    I seriously don’t understand how people have problems with these, they’re absolutely fine. Not hard to use, doesn’t get in the way and you’ll never lose them. And if all else fails you can just pull them off, not hard either. You gotta be dumb as fuck to have problems with them.

    As with anything else, I’m absolutely certain this is the classic “something changed so I’m going to be mad about it and make up a bunch of reasons why it’s bad” thing that happens to every little change anywhere. And what is some tiny inconvenience compared to lessening plastic waste, helping the environment and hurting less living beings? Stop being such spoiled little shits and pull your heads out of your asses.

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      6 months ago

      There definitely is an element of people just not liking it because it’s new, but there’s also an element of not getting any say in it whatsoever.
      Also, they really do get in the way. They make it harder to get a good seal between your mouth and the bottle at any angle, and at the top they hit your nose. They are slightly harder to use, especially if you’re using one hand for any reason, including if you only have one hand. Removing them without tools results in a sharp bit of plastic which pokes and irritates your skin.
      Finally, this is another patronising effort which makes consumers lives more difficult (by whatever amount) while not doing enough to combat plastic waste.

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    6 months ago

    As it has been pointed out by others, research data shows that plastic bottle caps are a significant part of trash that is washed onto beaches. In order to prevent that bottles now come with tethered caps. From this point of view this measurement might be understandable. But does one really lose the caps of these bottles that often? Is this really the problem?

    Where I live these kind of bottles are part of a deposit system. When you return them at a supermarket you get your deposit (25 Cent) back. This alone ensures that these bottles barely end up anywhere in the enviroment in the first place. When these bottles are returned at the supermarket, all of the bottles do have their respective caps screwed on. This method is practical, as you can collect these bottles wtihout having to deal with leakages of excess liquids.

    I never had any issues regarding that the cap is still attached to the bottle, which could be an issue when it comes to recycling these bottles. One major problem when it comes to recycling of plastics is that it is crucial that these plastics are separated by the material they are made of. That is why it is impossible to recycle compound materials, as they can’t be separated from each other (i.e. tetra pak, tetra bric). The most common way of getting rid of these kind of packings is to burn them and use their heat for generating electricity.

    These plastic bottles on the other hand can be recycled easily, as they consist of only one material (PET) - given, that the label is made of the same kind of plastic like the bottle itself.

    I don’t know if the bottle cap is made of the same material (PET) or if this is another kind of plastic (ABS, PS, …). Making these bottle caps from the same material as the bottle itself would impose a greater impact than tethering them onto the bottle.

    At first glance this measurement sounds like a low-hanging-fruit-greenwashing-attempt that hurts nobody. Very similar to the ban of disposable plastic cutlery or the ban of plastic straws. Don’t get me wrong - I think that these things are an important step towards reducing pollution and garbage overall, but did you ever ask yourself: “How does the garbage get into the ocean in the first place?”

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    6 months ago

    If the manufacturers would not use the cheapest caps with the least amount of flimsiest material available for this application, they could even be usable…

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    6 months ago

    Oh that’s supposed to stay attatched? Thought it was only to make sure that bottle was unopened. I always just rip it off.

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    i just opened a strawberry juice from a bottle with the cap attached and when i pushed it far enough so it doesnt mash against my face, it clicked and sprayed me with juice that is now forever gonna stain my shirt

    fuck these caps

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      I’ve heard (so no certainty), that they analyzed plastic trash collected from beaches and found plastic bottle caps to be a significant part of it. So they thought it would be worth trying to solve that problem.

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      The advertised benefit is that if you throw away the cap and bottle separately, you have 2 pieces of trash to clean up instead of 1. The actual benefit is that bottling companies can charge more for a more complex mold, but the same amount of materials. Lobbyiest lobbied and tada! In reality both pieces end up in the same landfill or in the same water current to garbage island. Now we have an antiquated law and an annoying policy to follow.

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    I can’t complain about them. I just rip them off. There may be a law (EU regulation) for bottle manufacturers to tether the caps, but there’s no law againt ripping the caps off.

    • RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      6 months ago

      It’s annoying then though since you to take care not to pour over it or get it in your mouth. And lost caps weren’t even a problem before.

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          6 months ago

          Duh? It’s still stupid that a gremium of politicians waste resources to regulate non-issues. I certainly don’t want to live in the US but the EU is over-regulated.

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            That might be true I’m not well versed in EU law or any law for that matter, can you give some examples where you think that is the case?

            When I think of EU laws that caught my attention it often was something that felt positive to me:

            EU wide roaming Travelers rights Anti trust/privacy protection Usb-c charging

    • whereBeWaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Boy do I love the cap snapping back to its place while trying to pour something. I just rip them off when I open the bottle now.

    • Pietson@kbin.social
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      6 months ago

      The ones that flip and stay in place are fine. Not a fan of the ones on a little plastic ribbon.

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      6 months ago

      Like them too. Felt odd when I got one the first time, but now I just don’t mind it. The cap doesn’t get in the way, and it’s easy to put back on

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        They are really well designed too. They lock into place when flipped 180 degrees (drinking mode) and don’t interfere at all while drinking.

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          6 months ago

          Mmh seems like a different type. They always get in the way for me and don’t lock into place. Haven’t encountered those types yet

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          I hear people complaining about this all the time, but I have yet to encounter this issue. I just flip it away, and it’s… not bothering me at all

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        6 months ago

        On the other hand, I’m glad these are the issues we’re combatting against, instead of a corrupt bipartisan government.

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            So can we. It’s easy to pull it off. Gotta remember to find solutions, not problems.

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            Man we don’t even have healthcare or widespread public transit. Abortion isn’t even legal everywhere anymore.

            Our country is rapidly falling apart before our eyes. Just stop man.

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            Is THAT your litmus for freedom?! In some states women can’t choose to have an abortion. And in all of the states people have to choose between going to the doctor or paying rent that month… But goddamnit, at least they don’t have to deal with those pesky tethered bottle caps!

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              This was not an an attempt to start a huge debate. I’m just glad I don’t have to deal with that here.

              Its not that I think the US is better. For instance, I think we could use some privacy and consumer rights.

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                I’d rather deal with a poorly designed bottle cap than half the shit we have to deal with here in the US. There’s a reason you’re getting down voted. What you said is so narrow sighted that it’s not even funny.

                We have MUCH larger issues we have to deal with than a stupid bottle cap. “Glad I don’t have to deal with that here” is showing a willingness to ignore everything else.

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            6 months ago

            Yes

            Even with my old ass body of a guy who barely exercises, I still have the strength to twist off the tiny retaining plastic bit.

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        Man have I got bad news for you. Almost everything uses idiots as the baseline for making stuff. They’re so numerous. Probably because everyone’s an idiot about something.

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        6 months ago

        Turning the cap’s hinge on a milk carton every time you open it is not really convenient (you can’t turn the carton, it’s not round as a bottle)

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        It gets in the way anyway. And the amount of times I was pouring myself a drink and the cap snapped shut spilling shit everywhere is too damn high.

        And when you try to screw it back on it just doesn’t fit properly.

        But anyway instead of endlessly complaining about it I just twist it off because I am not a baby.

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      Me still ripping those things completely off defeating thier purpose. Of course I try to drink can as much as possible. Except most stores refuse to stock anything but bottled it’s frustrating.