Lol
Won’t someone think of the poor influencers!? Sorry, “creators”. Just like Van Gogh and Stanley Kubrick.
Get a better job.
You say that but i appreciate their efforts. And wile i will understand and expect creators to work at their own pace, if only the algorithm wasn’t 100% momentum driven AND/OR i could just get front page notification when my subs post something, and didn’t just unsub me for not watching a video for a wile. I am an adult and can manage my own feeds
If your “job” is to convince brainless zoomers to eat tide pods or convince them to try DIY plastic surgery with hammers, maybe burning out isn’t a bad thing. Maybe we’re just seeing nature healing itself.
Bonesmashing?! Just when I thought people couldn’t get any stupider.
You get this a joke?
Children were never eating tide pods either.
Children were never eating tide pods either.
Somewaht true, back at the time we had not tide pods.
But we did a lot of stupid shit even without social media.
Like all horrible male “beauty trends” it comes from looksmaxxing forums where it was a joke but the people were highly autistic and actually did it. The same thing happens when it gets to tiktok. A bunch of people post about it knowing its a joke and people who struggle to understand its a joke get sucked in.
To “normal” people its like yeah obviously this is stupid, but to someone whos extremely socially inept they view it as a real path to looking like that. I’ve not met someone who has done this one exactly but ive met people who have done insanely destructive things because of what they saw on the internet.
Well you can’t stop everyone from being foolish. Before this they copied stuff on tv.
Thats true
You don’t understand, kids are really summoning satan with their dungeons and dragons books, and every grown up should be very threatened about it!
Just go hide back under your rock. Next thing you’ll say is that kids are absolutely safe minded individuals that stop and think about their safety and the safety of others when see they something that intrigues them.
Bro - I was literally a fucking teacher during the peak of that moral panic. I spend more time every day with teenagers than half of you on this thread do. Every kid knew it was a fucking joke. A handful of children actually did it on purpose, and like every moral outrage/hysteria it became “teens are doing this wild crazy thing!”
Yes, teenagers do dumb fucking shit all of the time. It’s not the shit the media picks up on for the viral clicks.
The real shit teens are actually doing is vaping shady carts and creating massive group chats to bully each other with naked pictures. But that doesn’t sell the same kinds of ad impressions as “there’s a stupid TikTok video that when viral so we are going to assume this is a massive regular thing that hundreds of children are doing.” Talking about those issues involves parents having to, you know, parent but instead it’s gotta be about stupid shit.
The real “hiding under a rock” is being distracted by the newest stupid TikTok video instead of dealing with the things teenagers actually do.
The point of the thread was for the influencers to fucking go and get a real job because they’re just rotting brains anyway. It started with tide pods and it’s grown into the exact thing you just stated. All that manosphere bullshit for example. You don’t think all those podcasts, Twitch, and whatever the fuck else today’s teenagers could get their hands on had any influence whatsoever from from all these dipshit people? We were all shitty teenagers so get off that “BRO I WAS A FUCKING TEACHER” high horse. It’s just worse now because they’re constantly bombarded by stupid fucking ideas. Welcome to the failure of the education system! Sorry you had to eat shit daily to find out I guess!
Children were never eating tide pods either
Yes they were. Because some people really are that dumb.
The same year, nearly 220 teens were reportedly exposed, and about 25 percent of those cases were intentional, according to data from the American Association of Poison Control Centers.
So far in 2018, there have been 37 reported cases among teenagers — half of them intentional, according to the data.
And that’s just reported numbers for teenagers. I can almost guarantee you the number of idiots that ate one and didn’t know how to call poison control is much higher.
Out of tens of millions of children, that’s nothing. It was pure fear mongering
It’s both fear mongering and a problem. I imagine there are a lot more unreported cases, since teens are especially unlikely to ask for help with something like this. On the other hand, it was used as an excuse to attack TikTok, which is stupid because the similar things happen on other platforms and happened before everyone was on social media. Kids will do stupid things as long as peer pressure is a thing.
Your TikTok addiction may have turned you into a psychopath. “Kids die all the time, what’s the big deal?”
The gun rights crowd has better arguments about why their hobby is more important than kids dying.
? I’ve never used TikTok…
But yes, kids die all the time for various reasons. When talking about individual causes, it’s important to look at the impact on trends. Are more kids dying due to TikTok, or is TikTok merely replacing another cause?
Obviously no death is acceptable, but death will happen. The role of public policy isn’t to prevent all death, but to address the bulk of it with the least invasive policy possible.
Did you see the part where only half of those ingestions were intentional?
You would be freaking out about rainbow parties and snap bracelets in the 90s.
Speaking of rainbow parties - that was actually a great idea. How come we never do that?
How does one unintentionally eat a tide pod? So you tell the guy when you’re checking in at the ER “Homie and I were just playing catch with a tide pod and I was yelling at cousin Mabel to get off the dang roof and it just dropped into my mouth and I swallowed. It was a one in a million shot doc. One in a million.”
More likely they did it intentionally and didn’t want to admit to it to avoid embarrassment. That or one of their dumb buddies thought it’d be funny based on some Tiktok they saw so they dropped one into someone’s bowl of Doritos.
Either way all I was doing was correcting a false statement you made about children never eating tide pods. Because they surely did.
Because it looks like candy. It feels like jelly. It’s individually wrapped in clear plastic, just like candy
Now, imagine someone leaves one of those on the counter, or in a random drawer. That’s where loose candy lives.
So of course other people, who maybe don’t do laundry and don’t often see tide pods, are going to go “oh, look, candy!”
And then they call poison control as they retch and the cells in the mouth turn to soap, and they get added to the statistics
Ngl my partner put a dishwasher position on the counter the other day and I genuinely thought it was candy for an uncomfortably long second or so.
I feel that, looks like they might taste like one of those carnival lollipops :>
Title of your link:
Liquid Laundry Detergent Pods Pose Lethal Risk for Adults With Dementia
For all those teenagers with dementia XD
How does one unintentionally eat a tide pod?
The same way a bulb end up in someone ass…
Posting shit on youtube made you tired? Poor you. Go do so real work instead.
My lord the amount of “I have a REAL job” in here is too damn high. I work 8 hours a night, 40+ hours a week, in an automotive plant. My job can be very stressful, and physically demanding. So what?
I don’t sit here and whine about people that stare at their screens (IT, developers, etc) all day. Are they really doing any work? After all, they are not performing physical labor.
How is it that different for people who create content? I’d argue that they do more work, as they have to set up, film, edit and market their work.
See how silly this sounds? A job is a job. Unless you own your own business, you are making money for someone else.
You aren’t wrong. But being a social media influencer is something almost no one would accidentally fall into. People who do it intentionally are doing it to chase a dream of fame and fortune and glamor - but because there is a limited amount of attention in the world and it is highly concentrated, you are really rolling the dice on a dream if you decide to commit to it. There is a very high probability that even if you put your whole heart and soul into it and did everything perfectly, you will still never achieve much more financial success than a child’s lemonade stand.
It’s basically the same thing as wanting to be a blockbuster film actor or a rock star or an NBA player. If you are struggling and unsuccessful… Well yeah, that’s exactly what everyone told you would happen. Go get a different job. And if you are successful and famous and making tons of money - “oh no, boohoo, it must be so hard to be successful beyond your wildest dreams.”
Maybe for the top tier influencers, but there are a ton of people making a reasonable living just by doing it what they enjoy. For example, strategy game streamers:
- FlorryWorry is probably the most popular EU4 streamer and has won the tournament something like 7-years straight; he makes enough to go full time
- NumotTheNummy is perhaps the best MtG Arena draft streamer, and has tons of subscribers (LSV honorary mention, who got famous for being a top-tier MtG pro tour competitor)
- Hikaru Nakamura - #2 chess player in the world, has a very healthy following
There are plenty more who are popular because of their skill at what they stream about and are competent enough at keeping people’s attention. If you’re the best, people will come to you, it’s not always just luck. A lot of people get there through luck, but a lot earn their way too.
At least in some cases, it might just be wholesome advice. The fact that you have “a job” and a whole different persona from that and they’re two separate things that sometimes intertwine probably brings you closer to us in administrative tasks (in the end, IT is by definition always something administrative rather than actually productive) than me as in an IT guy with an influencer. Because ultimately, your actual identity is your job, and by conclusion, your whole life is performative, which sounds REALLY exhausting
in the end, IT is by definition always something administrative rather than actually productive
Lol, what?
Might as well say mechanics are administrative too
With administrative, I meant that IT is a about information flow - defining rules how data is consumed, transformed and ultimately output. These by definition of a classic business I’d see as administrative.
I agree the wording isn’t good, and I didn’t mean it as in “anyone working in IT is just performing administrative tasks”, but rather that the field of IT is traditionally more of an enabler of other businesses.
The mechanic is usually the actual worker - you run a repair shop - but his spare parts management is an administrative task, and nowadays usually implemented by an IT solution.
The mechanic is usually the actual worker - you run a repair shop
But what is being repaired? A machine of some kind? And the machine is operated in pursuit of another actual productive activity, right?
Machines are just about the application of mechanical force in some way, and that in itself isn’t an end goal. Instead, we want that machine to move stuff from one place to another, to separate things that are apart or smush/mix separate things together, to apply heat or cooling to stuff, to transmit radiation or light in particular patterns.
Everything in the economy is just enabling other parts of the economy (including the informal parts of the economy). Physical movement of objects isn’t special, compared to anything else: kicking a ball on TV, singing into a microphone, authorizing a wire transfer, entering a purchase order, answering a phone, etc.
I’m not seeing a real distinction between an IT consulting business and a heavy equipment maintenance/repair business. The business itself is there to provide services to other businesses.
I’m not sure I understand where you are going with that. Performative? Exhausting? The hell are you trying to say?
It’s easy to try on that pairs of shoes. Those ignorants should go ahead and try building a community, try creating a video with some genuine effort regarding its content and - especially - edit it in an appealing way.
Heck, I was doing some Blender rendering for fun as a hobby and am occasionally recording some demo videos of a project I am working at for my supervisor. Sometimes it takes about two hours to edit a fucking 10 minute video. This is just a huge amount of work. No wonder any creator, who has reached a sufficient level of income, hires editors.
Yeah man, that shit can be hard and time consuming.
I used to do a podcast. Each episode was around 12 minutes. I’d spend a good eight hours a week on those 12 minutes, around my actual job, and would get about ten people listening. And you know that within half an hour of hearing it, they’ve forgotten it and moved on to the next thing in their queue. It’s hard to maintain enthusiasm for that.
I also think a big part of content creator burnout is the ‘everything is content’ mindset. If you work in a factory or an office usually you can go home and not be at work any more. When hanging out with your friends or being with your family also becomes content and therefore part of your job, the mental toll clearly becomes unbearable.
This whole article is nothing but “waaaaaahhhhhh”.
They should shut up and just enjoy doing something they’re having an easier time doing, than grinding your average 9-5 job. Do they really think they’re the only people on the planet?
Bro’s crying but secretly wants their job
And you can fuck yourself too, asshole.
Maybe you should stream about it? Passive income you fuckin twat.
Go fuck yourself.
Gladly, the joys of a big dick.
Mate, humanity is not going to make it if we can’t learn to sympathize with and protect each other. I’m sorry your life is hard. It’s not a god damn contest.
What industry are you in, anyway? If you don’t mind me asking.
Meanwhile, I work in a straining job where I come home, my knees feel weak, my right ankle is aching like fuck, I am mentally drained, I barely can even put together a thought process that tells me I should even have breakfast while fighting the urge to sleep while I try to have a fraction of what constitutes as a life. As well as work in a place, where I am almost always on threat of being fired for something petty because my management feels they have to have a bone to pick with me by fucking around with me and being snarky while doing it.
Why the fuck are you doing that to yourself? Get another job. It sounds highly unhealthy where you’re currently at.
Yeah, way to make it sound soooooo easy. In a country where thousands and thousands of jobs are cut at a given. You’d be a fucking idiot to quit a job cold and compete in a job market flooded with people needing a job. What kind of reality are you living in where people can just simply go and pick up a job? I’ve had a period of my life where I was jobless for a year and a half, trying and trying but getting no where. Why the fuck would I want that again because some nobody online said “D’UHHH GET ANOTHER JOB!” without realizing where we are in status of this country.
You’re spending a lot of effort complaining about your working conditions and then you see other people complain about their working conditions and your response is to get mad at THEM instead of the capitalist system and exploiting class that keeps them and you perilously employed and in your case seemingly while you’re sacrificing your body.
Pick the right targets for your invective. Instagram uploaders aren’t making your life worse.
Yes, they do. Sitting alone in a room, creating video content creates a self-centered and narcissistic worldview. It doesn’t matter how many followers you have you are not really interacting with a single one of them. Get out of your house and meet people in your neighborhood, share your work with them then I’ll be impressed
I heard someone talking about a content creator they watch, and how that creator basically can’t take a vacation without losing tons of followers and potentially a major chunk of their income.
A lot of creators will have a number of videos created ahead of time, so they can go on holiday and still have a steady release schedule.
Doesn’t help if you’re a streamer, though. I guess that was a part I left out, whoops -_-
Larger streamers post reruns.
Don’t they just take working vacations?
Yeah, that’s a whole different world.
I hear this all the time but I struggle to see how it is true. How many people regularly trawl through their feed looking for creators who haven’t posted in X days and unfollowing them? It would be a minuscule number. I’m pretty darn selective with my follows and I think I’d do this once a year, tops.
I think creators are conflating the everyday ups and downs of follower counts on their platform(s) as being something more. And I think the platforms themselves are encouraging this mentality because they need fresh content.
As OP specified in another reply, they were talking about streamers specifically. And with them, big chunk of the income comes from Twitch subscribers, which is a monthly paid subscription. If you are willing to pay someone for it, you’ll notice pretty much immediately if they miss their scheduled stream and cancel it.
For many other platforms what you said is true, I’m way more likely to unsubscribe from someone when they post a video and remind me I’m still subbed than when they take a break and fade out of my feed.
if someone i follow posts a bad video, i remove them from the ‘People I Like’ list and add them to the other list
Just because you do something a certain way doesn’t mean everyone does. A huge chunk of these peoples income comes from the random people who find their videos or streams because of the “algorithm”. Not from their regular viewers. Those regular viewers allow for a certain amount of steadiness, but they’re also more likely to watch videos at a later time rather than right when they’re uploaded. Which is a significant drop in revenue for each view.
Yep, this exactly. They can never clock out at the end of the day. It isn’t 8 hours of work and you’re done. You’re having to constantly try to innovate. Make tons of content, spend so much time editing, constant filming, constant planning. And if you deviate in your schedule, or upload some content that isn’t interesting, the algorithm punishes you and you may even get people that unsubscribe.
Must be hell when you can’t afford to take a vacation from that content creator life. Can never really “switch off”. Plus the fact that less than 1% actually make it big, and it’s mostly based on luck plus years and years of determination.
The responses in this thread are sick. So much vitriol for members of your own class who are just trying to make a living doing what they love and creating things.
I dont give a fuck about their burnout lol. if they love it so much why are they whining about doing it?
I’m in health care, you think illness has a pause button? I chose this, they chose theirs.
in the early days of the internet, I’m talking GeoCities days, I started what would be called a podcast about gaming. I recorded with windows sound recorder and a shitty Logitech desktop mic and then ran it through RealAudio to compress it to a downloadable format.
I shared it with communities online like IRC and BBS’s.
I got shit on so fucking much that I quit after my 6th cast. I received so much hate that I honestly thought of self harm.
now, it wasn’t right that it happened. but, it happened decades ago before podcasting, live streaming, YouTube, content creators, and influencers were a “thing”. my point is, it is a danger of creating anything for the world. if you don’t have the skin for it, the world will eat you alive, so get over it.
So they can’t keep selling their soul and dignity without consequences.
None of us can. It’s just a job, just they get even more shit on because they’re more public facing figures.
I’m so glad I was young before this stupid reality happened. I have a regular job and no desire for internet fame.
you’re just old…
Yeah, and I feel like I’m winning. If you want to be an influencer, go do that.
I asked my younger family members what they want to be when they grow up, and being a YouTuber was at the top of the list. I hate this so much.
So no follow-up questions? “What content are you gonna make? How are you gonna promote it? Any backup plans?”
only use things with pause buttons!
You can’t turn off any job. We all are burning out in this bitch. At least you’re sitting at home making videos.
Okay, not sure how much this matters considering where the world is heading, but:
If they can’t get better working conditions because you’ll complain (it’s not fair, yadda yadda), how will you get better working conditions when they complain (it’s not fair, yadda yadda)?
I’m just saying, if you’re not willing to play ball, why should I care about your sick pay?
Medicaid is gonna burn up soon. Should I be concerned that you’ll be losing coverage, or are we just fully on board with this petty individualism?
I imagine that being a content creator as a full-time job is much more difficult than most people realize. Also, the modern work environment is a hellscape, and I can’t blame people who want to avoid it. Still, it’s risky as hell - if the platform you rely on changes its compensation policies, you are screwed, and have even less legal protection/recourse than a McDonalds employee.
I wouldn’t expect a responsible person to take on that level of risk without a safety net. If you’re young and childless, then taking that risk is your call, and it’s unfair for me to judge you. If you’re relying on social media to pay the mortgage for your child’s home, though, you’d better have a Plan B and keep it ready.
You can’t pause the internet
Something I had to tell my mom all the time.
“Pause your damn game!”
“Its online, I can’t pause it!”
