• YungOnions@sh.itjust.works
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    7 months ago

    What the actual fuck is a ‘S type’ screw? What purpose does that have that another normal screw type cannot provide? What madness is this?!

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      Easy to screw closed but not open. Gotta think about it in 3 dimensions. They are used in US bathroom stalls.

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        Why though? Do they think a pervert will go and unscrew doors? I’d argue the occupant would notice before it’s all unscrewed. Also, kicking it down might just be faster.

        Cool concept though, but a person who loves repairing their stuff, I must say f it.

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      To elaborate: it’s in 3d, the s curve is a ramp. The regular screwdriver slots in when turned clockwise, but has no purchase the other way round. It slips out because the ramp lifts the screwdriver out of the screw.

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    7 months ago

    Wow, person making this chart actually has no clue. First two are absolute worst nightmare. Torx, Pozidrive, JIS, Alan all great with minimum damage.

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      It’s the “grandpa has been using slotted all his life so it can’t be bad” reasoning. I can’t think of a single use case I’d want slotted or even philips, if I’ve got a choice. Torx or bust!

      If you’re having trouble with Torx, buy better screws and bits. There are so many terrible screws around. The difference between a deep well fitting head and the cheap trash is massive.

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        Most of us are dealing with screws that someone else installed, though. Can’t really control the fact that the manufacturer decided to save .5 cents per units by using cheapass screws that strip if you look at them.

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        If you’re having trouble with Torx, buy better screws and bits.

        Last year I needed to do some hardwood construction outdoors. On the advise of a carpenter I ordered some high quality stainless steel Torx screws online. They don’t sell these in the consumer-oriented DIY store. They were awesome, much harder than the cheap screws, that would easily bend when driven into hardwood, much sharper as well and if you buy a box of 100 or more it comes with a bit which fits perfectly. So much easier to use than the overpriced crap from the DIY store.

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          Where are people buying shitty tor screws from? Walmart? Aldi?

          I’ve only bought them from supply houses or home depot/lowes, and deckmates are a pretty damn good brand.

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      slotted screws are all fun and games, but if they’re ruined…you will never get them out. I coursed these screws. Eventually they got the dremel treatement.

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    Phillips and pozi are actually designed to cam out (look it up on wikipedia). Started using torx a few years ago and I will never go back to pz again, even if it’s on the clock and someone else is paying for materials.

    Flat head still has it’s place IMO, for example on machinery that gets used out in the field where you might need to improvise a driver out of a knife or coin or something.

    Ph and pz are the work of the devil though.

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      This man clearly works in the field. Torx is the head to rule them all, except below T15 then it’s a pain, and you break more bits than you put in screws.

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        True. Best to save T15 and below for cleaning the flesh out from under your fingernails after you’ve finished removing all the pz screws the last guy put in.

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    Slotted is absolute shit. Philips is acceptable if you must live in the 1900s.

    Torx all the way. Every other type should be illegal and punishable by death of perpetrator’s extended family.

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      Pozidrive and torx ftw. The rest can bugger off tbh.
      Also, temper proof torx makes me lol. Brb, grabbing pliers to break of the temper proof bit haha

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        Temper proof torx makes me lol, because almost every bit set I own includes them.

        If you break it off you will most likely leave some behind, which will significantly reduce the mating area because you cannot insert the bit fully and may lead to stripping the screw.

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      the only slightly justifiable use of slotted is something like the face plate on a light switch or power outlet, where it doesn’t have to be particularly tight and it’s nice you can remove it in a pinch with a fingernail or dime.

      … but really if someone came and replaced all of mine with torx I can’t say id complain, so its not like they’re good in that use case… just less awful

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      Posidrive is an alright compromise. It’s drives fairly well with the correct bit, but will also work with a Phillips screwdriver.

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        but will also work with a Phillips screwdriver

        Only if you hate the screw and never want to see it in its full glory again.

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      Robertson, or square is the best. Screw will literally stay in the screw without dropping.

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            Yeah, that was his peak. The tool teardowns were interesting.

            The Torque Test channel is kinda close in a similar vein, but not quite the same.

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              I’ll have to check them out. If you like teardowns and deep dives on random consumer product engineering, I’d recommend Technology Connections. Dude puts out quality

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                Torque Test are very matter of fact and to the point, a very science and testing based channel.

                Well worth watching if you plan on spending money on power tools.

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          Phew… and what a dive that was. What a waste of a channel. I don’t mind the AvE stuff nearly as much as the insufferable persecution complex of WS though.

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        Had to unsub and strike him from my feed when he started cheering for the “freedom convoy” donkeys a while back. Revealed himself to be a hopelessly stupid and ignorant bumblefuck in my book. Fuck him.

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      Literally the only people who I hear say negative things about Torx / star bits are people who don’t own a good Torx driver set. They don’t strip easily (using the correct size) and they don’t slip.

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    I came here to show love for Robertson, but it looks like I didn’t need to. You guys are the best. 😁

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      I don’t think I’ve ever encountered one, but I can see their value. Where are they used?

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        In Canada, all square screws are called Robinson. If you go into a hardware store and ask for square head screws, the worker will correct you and say “the Robinsons are this way”.

        It’s just regional.

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    One day some event is going to happen that ends civilization. The last sentence spoken before the event will be “oh shot does anyone have a hex set?”.