The Ministry of Justice is developing a system that aims to ‘predict’ who will commit murder, as part of a “data science” project using sensitive personal data on hundreds of thousands of people.
Is Tom Cruise going to run the program?
Call it Minority Report
Because they will inevitably target minorities?
Because of the early 2000’s movie Minority Report that has this exact same plot and is starred by Tom Cruise.
I feel it’s time for a remake, maybe turn the three sisters into 3 AI computers?
maybe turn the three sisters
Two of the three precogs were boys, by the way.
I definitely need to rewatch this movie again.
Niooce.
It’s just institutional racism with extra steps
Why are they rebooting “Minority Report?” The Tom Cruise version was excellent, we don’t need a new one.
Thought crimes. Neat.
So what’s the plan after that? You can’t arrest people until after they commit the crime. Otherwise it gets confusing.
The UK isn’t the US, the government can’t just do whatever it wants and get away with it.
Yet.
Aha the “it might happen” argument, used to justify pretty much any amount of pearl clutching that one feels is necessary.
I’m not saying it’s impossible but just saying it might happen and then providing no actual evidence as to why that might happen doesn’t really constitute an argument. We might have super intelligent AI by next month, but we probably won’t so I’m not going to worry about it.
Stop falling for the liberal trap that laws and bureaucracy will somehow magically save you from fascism. It won’t. This is just the start. They’re slowly warming you all up to it until it’s going to be too late. There’s no such thing as “This can’t happen here!”. It definitely can, and it definitely will if you don’t organise and stop it.
I’ve read through the entire article and I can’t find anywhere where it says that they will actually be acting in the data. It also says in the article that this project was started by the conservatives not labour so again I don’t necessarily think there’s cause for concern right now. Also the fact the government even responded to the freedom of information request seems to suggest that it isn’t actually a secret project.
Shit like that needs to be stopped while it’s just someone’s wild wet dreams. When it will become solid plans with budget and deadlines, it will already be too late
It would be hilarious to see random civilians being casually followed by a policeman (policeperson?), overly and cheerfully “nah mate, you haven’t done a thing. I’m just here to watch. For now. Carry on.”
Reminder to watch Minority Report again… I don’t even remember whether that movie was any good or not
Can’t believe that movie is looking to become a reality in my lifetime.
It’s great!
Precrime is here!
Precrime will be here!
Precrime will have had been here?
Precrime was here!
Postcrime will be there?
As a data engineer:
Number of subreddits banned from?..site wide, that’s a lot of subreddits lol.
Hey, remember when pre-musk twitter had to turn off their extremism automod for republican politicians because they were constantly spewing the same patterns of extremist content that actual ISIS-supporting accounts were?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
I’m not superstitious, but I’m starting to think that the 30s are cursed, the closer we get to them the worse Europe gets.
Yeah, can’t say that I disagree
Be ready to go to jail for shit you never did, and then be forced to watch the thing you never did for your entire sentence. What do you think you’ll do when you are released?
You’re assuming they’ll ever release you.
“I’m sorry; we predicted that, if we release you now, you’ll murder someone.”
That’s actually the idea. It’s not general precrime, it’s a decision support tool for predicting recidivism when deciding parole cases.
That doesn’t mean it’s not on decidedly shonky ground statistically speaking.
Hasn’t this been tried before? and failed
How about if we test it on politicians first?
US LEO are the real ones. In UK+EU they really aren’t murderous villains, many don’t even carry a gun.
And politicians don’t murder, they just fleece us.
And politicians don’t murder,
I beg to differ.
Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor, yeahSimilar message, very different song:
Why don’t presidents fight the war? Why do they always send the poor?
Why don’t presidents fight the war? Why do they always send the poor?
Why do they always send the poor? Why do they always send the poor?
Why they always send the poor?
Oh boy! …Here we go, dropping a new Dystopia again!
So… What happens when it is wrong?
No it is never wrong, just super early. Just arrest people at 18 for crime they will do at 60 obviously.
We find out the guy running the tool has been manipulating it and is the murderer.
Touché, indeed.
Let’s call it project insight.
social rating here we go
Was that a Black Mirror episode?
It was an episode on The Orville. Probably Black Mirror too.
Probably. It’s also reality in China.
No? Why are you spouting BS? The Chinese Social Credit System is basically the same as the consumer credit reporting agencies in North America. Except the data is handled by an authorian state instead of for profit corpos.
It’s also based on “law-abiding behavior” and “moral values” Source:
2.2. Finding the Social Credit System in a regulatory jungle
The broad range of policy goals projected on the system explains why what is generally translated as “social credit” is not a clearly and legally defined concept. Documents and discussions of the system contain a set of terms that range from financial creditworthiness (征信) to broader trustworthiness, law-abiding behaviour, or even moral values such as honesty and integrity (诚信/守信).
I don’t know if all of that has been implemented, but that does seem to be part of the goals.
Yes, it probably has its issues with vague wording. But MERCS also released a fact check a year later, attempting to dispel myths:
Interesting. Thanks for the link!
570 recorded homicides between March 2023 and 2024.
Data on “hundreds of thousands” of people can’t provide the distinguishing markers to even have a stab at this.
It can reliably predict when people are black, though.
a stab
I see what you did there 😄
It can predict blackness with up to 63% accuracy!
Is 63% significant?
If I was clever I might have said 60%
Because 3/5
Eh that’s more of a US thing
1/e is about 37%, maybe 1-1/e?
