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But this policy may struggle to address the camera problem at large, as the company has already required hosts to disclose the indoor cameras, and guests have sometimes reported hidden and undisclosed cameras.
The new rules also require hosts to disclose to guests whether they are using noise decibel monitors or outdoor cameras before guests book.
“This just emphasizes the fact that surveillance always gives a huge amount of power to whoever controls the camera system,” says Fox Cahn. “When it’s used in a property you’re renting, whether it’s a landlord or an Airbnb, it’s ripe for abuse.”
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I’ve only ever had shitty experiences with b&b. I like the idea but somehow the business attracts a lot of assholes.
With that and the crazy extra fees, you’re better off just staying in a hotel if you’re fewer than 4 people and only staying for a couple of days.
For me it’s about the customer service. I stayed in 30 airbnbs in 2 years and when I needed Airbnb, they fully sided with the host who was lying and faked chat screenshots, didn’t bother to get any proof from my side and just penalised me.
On the other hand, with Booking, I always felt fully supported by customer service.
I’ll only use airbnb if there’s absolutely no other option. It’s a liability, even more for longer stays.
Really depends on the location.
When staying in Europe, i never had crazy fees or todos when leaving.
Booking is sometimes a bit cheaper, but next stay is agaon booked via Airbnb thanks to an offer on a listing i wanted.Yeah I hear a lot of old man “just pay a little more for hotels” these days. Airbnbs are almost always still cheaper. And read reviews, send questions, like 99% I’ve been to have wayyyy better cleaning services and care than hotels.
I think people are choosing the sketch ass $30/day places and upset when the experience isn’t like staying in a Hilton. I’ve stayed in two story apartments in central Paris, oceanfront houses, and old school A-frame cabins all for under $130/day. Just gotta put the work in up front.
I never spend over $100/night for hotels. Ever.
Also, Hilton isn’t even that nice.
In Europe maybe, but in America Hotels/motels are almost certainly cheaper.
I also get a bit puzzled by the negative comments on the stays themselves. If people want to complain about what AirBNB does to communities, that I can get to some extent, but even then, if it really impacts things any more than an old school landlord buying properties and renting them out, I’m not sure. I live in a neighborhood with over 30% of the units being rentals, and there’s good and bad that comes with it.
As far as stays go, I’ve maybe done a dozen or so AirBNB stays by now, and they have always been wonderful. I only look at places that have solid reviews and read through all the rules/fees posted and there’s never been an issue.
I’m staying at one this weekend, and the hostess was texting me last night telling me what parts of the city to avoid since it’s St Patty’s weekend and will be a bit crazier and which places aren’t worth the money and are just tourist traps.
I won’t say I don’t believe there aren’t people out there with bad experiences, but I’ve stayed in many hotels that were ugly, old, dirty, noisy people next door, room wasn’t made on arrival, etc. but I’ve yet to get a bad AirBNB and they usually add to my trip experience because I like meeting the hosts and getting their insights. I also feel less bedbug potential exists if they’re living there too.
And the peak benefit is I can find ones that have pets! I don’t have any right now, but I do many times miss having them, and getting a place with a cat or dog or goat or what not lets me enjoy that without the responsibility!
The fact there’s always more people crapping on AirBNB in every thread that mentions it vs people with good experience seems off to me though. Makes my NIMBY sense tingle a little bit is all… 😉
I feel like this should have been done a long time ago and is a given.
How about theywranglein those cleaning fees and requirements. Even ebay eventually out a stop to $0.01 listings with $99.99 shiping and handeling. Im forever done with AirBnB after having a 20 step chore list for renting a condo for a weekend.
They need a rule making the chore list part of the listing.
Of they want to be a hotel, they need to do the work that entails.
I paid $3500 for a weekend at a 4 bedroom condo in a little christmas town. Took an hour to complete the bullshit list. I mean the condo was modern and pretty nice, but fuckif i’ll ever do that again.
3500 for a weekend is completely nutshit crazy?? You could have a nine star hotel with blackjack & hookers for that price.
Normally $300-500 for a roach hotel during christmas time. Condo was 2000sqf 5 bedroom for a family vacation. No where was it state about a damn chore list. Now ill just stay in the hotels.
No, there should be no chore list
Other than instructions on where to leave the key or how to lock up, there should be nothing else
Nah it’s fine as long as it’s all upfront. Personally i don’t mind doing a couple of simple quick chores -which i would like to be sure of before renting, and i know that some people don’t want to do any chores -which you should be allowed to filter out those listing. Everyone wins except the scamy userous airbnb hosts.
That’s how it started… Basic things like taking out the trash and it was worth it because it was so cheap and/or better value than a hotel
But now they want you to mow the lawn and you are often not saving anything… So there is no balance any more
THAT WAS ALLOWED?!
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Also you had to indicate this in several places, including a toggle to disclose if there were cameras ANYWHERE on the premises.
Wireless nanny cams might be easy to hide, but their RF activity is easy to detect with free apps. I can’t imagine this was very common, but any amount of abuse is too much.
What sort of degeneracy are we living in where it is acceptable to have cameras within residential premises that are being rented out…
Too little and too late. Airbnb can’t even enforce the property owners to honor their own terms and conditions. Good luck enforcing this new rule on cameras.
I’ve used that app to find longterm roommates for years. It’s pretty much been a nonstop positive experience for my roommates and I, but when I hear stories of the kind of abuse people put up with from other hosts I wonder what I’m missing.
Airbnb has always been a lightning rod for negative interpersonal anecdotes, it seems, more so than other *-share apps. For example, when I started using it to find roommates, friends warned me about scary home invader and Hostel-type scenarios they had heard about, but all that stranger-danger stuff turned out to be unfounded. My “guests” are just normal people who need a place to stay for a few months. Many have interesting stories and experiences. Quite a few are friends now that keep in touch and hit me up when they’re in the area. Overall it’s just been a fun way to meet people while helping me with rent in an expensive city.
So I’m not sure where all the negative experiences I’ve heard about are coming from. I suppose a home is one of the more intimate things people can share, and hospitality is certainly not a universal skill. There are also market tiers, the lowest of which have always had a greater prevalence of scammy/scummy behavior people once expected on zero-accountability sites like Craigslist, so I’d expect some negative press from bottom-feeders. But beyond that, I’m at a loss to explain why online I only hear about these terrible experiences. There must be wide-spread quality control issues. I hope they fix it before the whole idea of home sharing is scrapped, because it’s not all bad.
Wow what a totally not biased at all opinion lol
I’m at a loss to explain why online I only hear about these terrible experiences.
Happy customers don’t write about their glorious experience with Airbnb. You only hear about the ones that make the news or the courts.
Then multiply the relatively small fraction of issues against 400 million nights per year booked with Airbnb and it’s easy to think that every booking is a nightmare.
“Sharing your home”
Yea, I think no one is complaining about those types of airbnb hosts. It’s the ones who want to run them like a hotel with the guest themselves as staff.
I almost always hear complaints the other way around: guests complaining about bad hosts, not hosts complaining about bad guests, unless it’s the entitled ones whining their guest didn’t wash the linens and make the bed…
That’s fair. In my area I’ve seen a few that appear to be run that way. I’m not sure what that’s like. Also a few nearby listings give me the sense that the hosts actually dislike people, or don’t want evidence of other humans in their space. Why folks like that pick hospitality as a side hustle is beyond me.
Unless it’s the entitled ones whining their guest didn’t wash the linens and make the bed…
Yeah how does that even work? How would they expect guests to know how to reset the room? Do they make the guests take pictures at move in? I’m really curious how that works. (But in my case, honestly it’s way easier if my roommates leave daily cleaning, linens, and other chores/maintenance to me, because I set this place up and have a system.)
