Someone has pointed out it would be lot easier for AI to replace a CEO then a developer.
AI won’t code everything by next year, blnot inn5 years either as it requires understanding context and actual reasoning which AI doesn’t have and won’t have for a long time to come, but the day that AI can code itself is the day that humanity is done for
I installed Manjaro on one of my computers and I wanted to see, if ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini or Mistral where useful in eliminating some quirks you always encounter after a fresh install. So I asked them whenever I stumbled upon an issue how I could solve that issue.
None, I’d like to emphasise this: NONE of their tips was helpful.
And Mr Masad wants me to believe AIs would be able to program whole applications within a year?
MUAHAHAHA
ok then.
all developers should quit their jobs now. like right now. also, don’t bother with foss anymore. AI can generate it all by itself. all foss projects should close all their public repos entirely. no more public code repos, no more software development.
everybody go home, AI has it covered. we can just get new more fulfilling jobs in farming, logging, or construction.
bye greedy AI fuck-sticks. We’ll be back when you assholes snap your AI neck trying to suck your own dicks.
Coding is totally obselete, bro. AI can totally write all the code, trust me bro. You just gotta know how to tell it what code to write, like learn some keywords and stuff, bro. Like, as long as you check how it produces looping mechanisms and tell it when it should use polymorphism and stuff, it’ll totally do all the work bro. You don’t need to know how to code, just the right sequence of keywords and commands so the AI can write all the code.
The idea of LLMs putting coders out of work at a large scale seems inherently self-defeating.
The LLMs needed to ingest a massive volume of code to get to their current level of proficiency. What will happen if they put all the coders out of work and Stack Overflow is down to just a small number of hobbyists? Will the LLMs just stop advancing?
I’m sure Sam Altman would say they are just about to have reasoning capabilities that will allow them to improve. But Sam Altman is not credible.
It’s sadly already happening in regards to stack.
I can explain this chart: SO and AI both give me questionably useful example code, but AI isn’t as much of an asshole about it as the average SO user.
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AI is probably going to transform how code is written, but I don’t think AI will fully replace programmers. At least not in the foreseeable future.
Most of a programmer’s work is maintaining existing code. This is something current AI models still struggle with.
Listening to this guy talk shit is a waste of time
Masad’s comments have come up before and sparked huge outrage before and just like before people are missing the hugely important context here.
He added that coding may become obsolete, but people will still need to continue to work on their fundamentals: “I’m at this point, like agents pilled. I’m very bullish. Like, I sort of changed my answer even like a year ago. I would say kind of learn a bit of coding. I would say learn how to think, learn how to break down problems, right? Learn how to communicate clearly, with as you would with humans, but also with machines.”
The way I see it, he’s thinking that the current-day approach to coding is likely to go the same way that coding in assembly language went when high-level languages and compilers became good and common. The vast majority of programmers never need to think about individual registers or the specific sequence of opcodes needed to perform operations or access memory, the compilers handle that and they do a great job. Only a handful of specialists really need to go down to the metal like that any more.
So too will it be for a lot of the programming that current day programmers do. It’ll still be useful to know how it works so that you’ll know what to ask for and what to do when something goes wrong, but 99% of the code will be done by AIs and will hardly even be looked at by a human. There’ll still be people who are experts at working with programs but the current approach to how that’s done is likely to be obsolete.
I predict that this guy is a moron.
Oh shit, my prediction already came true!?
The main issue I’ve encountered is with troubleshooting. Initially, working with cursor was smooth when dealing with a single file and script project. However, as I tried to extend it to handle dependencies like a typical project, the code generation began to spiral out of control, resembling a cancerous growth that keeps producing more and more code. This problem intensified when I started interacting with multiple libraries, making the situation even more chaotic. It must be extra directed to stay on track and even if it tends to always create extra.
But what is interesting with those company CEO is that they still have developers. How come? If AI will replace them you don’t need any. Actions vs words
As a developer, I literally laughed hard enough to choke a little.
I actually dare them to try. I’m really looking forward to the massive paychecks I’m going to get when companies are panicking to try to untangle all the absolute nonsense bullshit these AI companies are about to unleash into corporate codebases. The AI-slop bugfest will make the Y2K issue seem trivial. I’m so excited, the future looks very bright for human software developers.
My advice: Practice going over other people’s code with a fine-tooth comb looking for bad architecture, flaws and inefficiencies. You won’t always be right, you won’t find them all, but you’ll learn lots of skills you’ll need in the future. Whatever you do, don’t undersell yourselves, remember that your experience is valuable, and AI has no experience, it just has a huge library it can shotgun “solutions” out of. Half the time they don’t even compile, nevermind work properly, or efficiently.
My advice: Practice going over other people’s code with a fine-tooth comb looking for bad architecture, flaws and inefficiencies.
I agree. Funny story, I wasn’t allowed to do code reviews at my current job for about 2 years because they thought my comb was too fine. Suddenly software quality is something they are really valuing and they’re allowing me to do code reviews again. Funny, that.
Yeah when I first started there was one guy whose code reviews I dreaded, he would nitpick every detail and he would stand by it, he would tell me to do it a completely different way that was 10x more work. It felt like I would never get my stories done because I had drawn “that asshole” in the code review lottery.
Years later, I came to realize that he was actually the best, he taught me so much about the way I should be thinking of things and structuring things, that have saved so much time and trouble later on, I now specifically reach out to him for a review when I am trying to do something complex because I know he’s going to give me an honest, thorough and useful review. Nobody’s doing anyone any favours in the long run by rubber stamping things, it may help you keep your sprint velocity up, but it’s not going to result in high quality code, and the bad quality code will inevitably bite you.
LOL, my friend no. Hahaha 🤡
As a coder, the majority of my job isn’t writing code. It’s translating the bullshit management says and the broken specs we’re given into what they both actually want, not what they said. There is never going to be an AI that fixes that
There is never going to be an AI that fixes that
Don’t be so negative. Of course AI, if sufficiently trusted, could fix the existence of the human race and by extension the existence of bullshit management.
Waiting for AI to take over CEO positions because they do nothing and you can replace them with a series of shell scripts.
That’s a more viable solution than replacing most software engineers, honestly.
