I guess this is damage control, since they are afraid of setting a precedent of potentially killing off legal emulation in the US for good.
There’s no chance, an emulator dev team can take it up against Nintendo’s lawyers.
Don’t blame Nintendo, blame capitalism.
True, if they went to court and lost, every emulator project would likely be sued. But settling out of court also sets a precedent, or rather perpetuates the current status quo of crushing any vaguely gray area fan project with the threat of legal action. The shutdown of Yuzu will embolden Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony to be more aggressive about killing off these projects. Until someone does take one of these three to trial and wins, things are going to continue getting worse for game preservation.
Capitalism taking its’ course until we stop it, I’m afraid.
Both. Blame both.
This is just encouragement for ryjunix to prep for new console (which is probably going to be almost the exact same)
Fuck Nintendo. Find better games for your kids to play. Buy a Sega genesis with an everdrive or set up a raspberry pi or something.
That was fast.
They settled.
Saw this coming and made sure to update one last time. Ill probably just switch to Ryujinx at some point.
RIP Yuzu
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Its dead. Another project based on it source code might arise but it won’t be the same team and will take a while before it would be smart to trust the new project.
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Agreed. Same thing with Tachiyomi a couple of months back. It still lives on
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True just look at how long project64 v1.6 has been around
@Imprint9816 I’m really sad, it’s like I have lost a friend.
@Imprint9816 do you think Nintendo is done?
Fuck Nintendo. They’re going on my shitlist forever. They were already on my shitlist. Now they’re just on the same level as HP which is the lowest level.
Same, I haven’t supported them since 2020 but after this I’m never coming back. They can go fuck themselves, I hope their “Switch 2” fails like the WiiU did.
Yeah hard to say. I wouldn’t be surprised if Ryujinx gets hit next. It looks like the source code for Yuzu is, at the very least, saved on the wayback machine, so my guess is a fork will eventually pop up.
It seems like a better strategy would be to host this on the dark net. When working on projects like this, they need to start putting effort into making it so that it’s almost impossible to link them to real life people. People sell drugs on there all the time and seem to get away with it. Maybe we need to adapt.
We need an “Illegal software github” kind of like pirate sites but for source code that governments and corporations don’t want people to have.
Shitty thing is, emulators and emulation themself aren’t ilegall.
What nintendo attacked here is the fact yuzu was used to play copies of games for their still used and developed for system, doesn’t matter whether it was pirated or not to them, all they care about is the fact that it was a current gen system emulator and they didn’t like that fact because they think it hurts their sales.
Big companies are probably better at finding people than law enforcement is
Lol no
nintendo? more like nintendon’t!
Are there any viable Yuzu or Citra forks?
A guy on the Lemmy.world post posted this: https://github.com/TxzK/yuzu
More important than maintaining the source code though is forming a new group to manage the continued development of Yuzu and Citra. Hopefully they don’t fracture into ten groups all making parallel improvements.
No, I hope they do and all on open source so they can pull from each other’s improvements. Redundancy will help keep things going
github forks can easily be DMCA-ed, find a mirror somewhere other than github
How would one go about downloading and building it from that link?
I wouldn’t put anything on GH at this point, not with lawsuits going around.
It’s funny, before this, I was just going to buy a legit copy and play it on my Deck (I have a Switch, but prefer the Deck)
Now, fuck those guys. If I play at all, it’ll be on a pirated copy.
Deck is superior to Switch! And obligatory F—- Nintendo, and their 1990’s mindset with games and hardware. I’m convinced they’ll have to financially fail to start caring. Even a 30% reduction in their sales and player counts should quickly seize their attention.
At this point 2024 is looking like the Year Of Nintendo’s Failures starting off with Palworld. They certainly deserve to fail!
With all that free money, it looks like Nintendo will be just fine if I never purchase another one of their games. Hell, I may even offer to hack some of my friends’ systems just to spite Nintendo.
I’m gonna rcm my switch now and copy my animal crossing island to my PC to be emulated. Shoulda done that a long time ago to have a backup that I actually own instead of having to pay Nintendo to keep my save data backed up. I see no reason to play any more Nintendo games on my switch, much less purchase any more when I have my steam deck.
Absolute chad. Keep fighting the good fight.
Cowards. Both Nintendo and the devs for not even bothering with fighting back.
Ahh look at that, a person on the internet having a big mouth without actually having knowledge into the matter. Nothing new.
They are not cowards at all.
Never take on a corporate company that has billions to spend for the suing. They took the smartest and best route for themselves and that’s what matters - what’s best for them.
If you want someone to “fight” against Nintendo, be the change! Do it yourself.
Technically suing costs the company nothing. They are paying lawyers anyway.
They’re cowards for not using the chance to kill any judge dumb enough to entertain “copyright laws.” Or better yet, coward for not using the chance to call in Miyamoto and killing his rentseeking ass.
I’m curious, are you a teenager? The way you are writing makes me think, you are. For example “fighting” and “killing” . These terms don’t really suit the topic.
Not only that you write about things, you clearly have no knowledge of. They are not cowards at all, they took the best and smartest route for themselves to not get into even more financial debt, mental health issues and immensely stressful situations.
I’m quite certain, you have no idea how big of a toll this situation takes on the Yuzu developers.
Not only that, they were definitely not going to manage winning the case against Nintendo. They do not have the financial capacity nor the right lawyers for it. Nintendo has enough money and great lawyers to drag this for years if they wanted to.
Anyway because it seems you cannot be reasoned with, this will be my last comment to you.
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What are you, twelve years old?
Well yeah, look at the @. All of hexbear is edgelord children.
If you want someone to “fight” against Nintendo, be the change! Do it yourself.
And also probably live in Russia (or another CIS state) you know, like most of the famous crackers who still do this and continue to get away with it. Otherwise they (Nintendo or some other western Corpo) will just do the same thing all over again.
Or you could just have a team there, but it didn’t work so well for Gary Bowser, so if you go that route consider the first option.
Sony shouldn’t sue anyone emulating PS4/5 stuff. AFAIK, PC is the king of modding.
I doubt they’re cowards. Nintendo could smack everyone on the team back into the middle ages. Settling i imagine would end it now instead of completely ruining thier lives.
@mr_MADAFAKA between this and sending Gary Bowser to jail and taking money from him while in prison … i will NEVER buy another nintendo product. I should have come to this conclusion LONG ago … but i guess better late than never.
#fucknintendoAs of right now Citra and Yuzu are both available via Flathub!! If you want them there’s still time!!!
Honestly someone should just copy all of the files onto 10, 000 cheap small flash drives and just hand them out everywhere.
Lol install statistics shot up when initial news broke last week.
Anyone know whwre to get the most recent linux build as a .deb? I wanna have an installer in case I have to wipe my os or something like that.
I heard the flat pack is still up
Yep, snap too
Yeah, but is there a way to download flatpacks for an Install at another time?
I wanna be able to install it at a later point in time (for example when I reinstall my system)
apt download yuzu
will download the deb file (but not dependencies) of the latest release to the PWD. But if you want the latest dev version, you’ll have to build from source.Thanks, I didn’t know this was an option :D.
GitHub releases?
Their git hub is gone
Effective today, we will be pulling our code repositories offline
So this defensive strategy was planned from the beginning. The L in LLC stands for limited. It means Nintendo won’t get any money. Tropic Haze LLC declares bankruptcy and tells Nintendo “our assets are two rolls of toilet paper and this empty can of coke, GL with getting your millions”. Certainly cheaper than fighting a top lawyer team with unlimited funding
Yeah the LLC structure always seemed weird to people. After what happened to Bowser serving prison sentence and having his future earnings garnished for the rest of his life, this might have been the smart play. Yuzu group will never be able to pay the 2 mil. Company goes under and owners walk away from this escaping real harm.
Is that really how it works? Good for them in that case.
It’s complicated. I’m no lawyer so take this with a grain of salt, but LLCs don’t offer blanket protection. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piercing_the_corporate_veil
It is possible to go after people directly, and side step the LLC protection in certain cases. Depends how much Nintendo wants to screw these guys.
And no one ever pirated a Nintendo game ever again.
In other news:
- Switch sales up 2000%!
- Nintendo stock reaches all-time high!
- Half-Life 3 released!
The poor Nintendo executives can finally afford to go to space, like they deserve!
Via jettison? 🤞🏻
Straight into the sun!