And if you’re done, you’ll have to learn how your CI/CD stuff works, and kubernetes, and Helm. And somehow you’re also required to know the arcane and inconsistent rules that Ops put in place a few months ago without anyone telling the devs about it.
As an ops person I disagree! Our arbitrary changes are documented in a jira ticket in the ops project. If you can’t view the ops project fill free to open a ticket in ops and we will triage it when we feel like it.
I’m have done both, Spring Boot and Laravel on BE and Vue, Svelte and React on FE.
Don’t believe the FUD. Vue and Svelte are fun if you have a moderate understanding of HTML, JS/TS and CSS in your sleeve and those reactive frameworks are indefinitely better than vanilla JS or jQuery. React is another beast and I really didn’t like working with it.
Both Vue and Svelte have nice setup tools for NPM/PNMP (I’d recommend the latter) that create template applications in a few minutes which immediately run inside a local dev-server. Change some code and changes are immediately reflected inside the browser. It’s really a nice DX. And both frameworks have very nice ecosystems and GUI frameworks, e.g. VueUse or shadcn-svelte.
React is fine too with the right tooling. Next.js, create-t3-app, vite etc. are all nice. I think svelte has fewer unfamiliar mental models and hurdles to initial development though. I tried vue years ago and found react made far more sense to me for some reason.
And if you’re done, you’ll have to learn how your CI/CD stuff works, and kubernetes, and Helm. And somehow you’re also required to know the arcane and inconsistent rules that Ops put in place a few months ago without anyone telling the devs about it.
As an ops person I disagree! Our arbitrary changes are documented in a jira ticket in the ops project. If you can’t view the ops project fill free to open a ticket in ops and we will triage it when we feel like it.
Then when you’re done, you find out one of the core modules you use is considered a ‘security risk’ by your infosec team. So you have to start over.
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I’m have done both, Spring Boot and Laravel on BE and Vue, Svelte and React on FE.
Don’t believe the FUD. Vue and Svelte are fun if you have a moderate understanding of HTML, JS/TS and CSS in your sleeve and those reactive frameworks are indefinitely better than vanilla JS or jQuery. React is another beast and I really didn’t like working with it.
Both Vue and Svelte have nice setup tools for NPM/PNMP (I’d recommend the latter) that create template applications in a few minutes which immediately run inside a local dev-server. Change some code and changes are immediately reflected inside the browser. It’s really a nice DX. And both frameworks have very nice ecosystems and GUI frameworks, e.g. VueUse or shadcn-svelte.
React is fine too with the right tooling. Next.js, create-t3-app, vite etc. are all nice. I think svelte has fewer unfamiliar mental models and hurdles to initial development though. I tried vue years ago and found react made far more sense to me for some reason.
It’s really not that bad if your SE sets good standards.
We use C#, Entity Framework, and GraphQL for the BE.
Then TypeScript React for the FE. Now using Vite where we used to use CRA.
Oh you’re using react? I heard it’s not great for security. Just swap it out for angular and we’ll give our approval