You’re about 30 years too late, but I’m glad you’re finally here
So now we care what Edward Snowden says about vram? We need him to tell us that it should be 24 gigs?
Edward Snowdon reads a spec sheet
Wait, did the guy refuse to call AMD’s 9070 by its official name out of spite there at the end? Is this a weird tech The Onion thing?
Probably a mistake, considering the current generation follows the RX 7X00 naming pattern.
What type of news editor for a hardware review outlet gets that wrong? That’s as weird as the Snowden thing. If you have that job you’ve surely been joking about AMD’s shameful “we just want to use the same name as Nvidia” thing for ages by now. This thing is so surreal.
AMD, as usual, misses an opportunity here. The 5xxx series is exactly Fermi again (they even removed hotspot data so reviewers would miss the throttling). AMD could leverage the nostalgia of one of ATI’s best gens and call the cards 9700 and 9700pro. Damn, those were the days. (since 4750 conflicts with current scheme)
He’s not wrong
What the fuck is going on with the world
People are showing us who they really are when push comes to shove.
Snowden showing us he’s a card reviewer
The video card monopoly (but also other manufacturers) have been limiting functionality for a long time. It started with them restricting vGPU to enterprise garbage products, which allows Linux users to virtualize their GPU for things like playing games with near-native speeds using Windows on Linux. This is one of the big reasons Windows still has such a large marketshare as the main desktop OS.
Now they want to restrict people running AI locally so that they get stuck with crap like Copilot-enabled PCs or whatever dumb names they want to come up. These actions are intentional. It is anti-consumer & anti-trust, but don’t expect our government to care or do anything about it.
So to put the likelihood of this in perspective, let me just repeat it to see if I understand the claim.
You’re saying that one of the big reasons of Windows’ market share is how artificially inefficient it is to install Linux, spin up a Virtual Machine, run Windows inside THAT and then run a game?
That’s the mainstream use case that is propping up Windows adoption in this scenario?
The main thing propping up Windows as the main OS (meaning it is running at the root layer) is exclusive hardware GPU support which is used for gaming & many apps. Otherwise, automating running Windows apps & Windows on Linux would have become much more mainstream.
This is demonstrably wrong on a scale where it loops around to becoming hard to explain, so that’s a neat trick.
There are enough people who have never heard of or don’t understand the concept of virtual machines to keep Windows as the biggest mainstream OS several times over. There isn’t a “root layer” in computers as far as normal humans are concerned. They’re computers and then a Windows pops up and that’s how that works.
At the very most, they understand conversion layers on the basis of having gone from an old Macbook to a new Macbook, and even that is like a tenth of the market (still several times bigger than Linux adoption, though).
The idea that a mass of people are waiting on the sidelines, chomping at the bit for direct GPU access through an extra layer of software fine tuning to be able to run some brand name Windows app with no Linux version is absurd. Even games are not the problem, as evidenced by that being mostly solved via Proton and not changing much.
I don’t mind either way, but man, consider what other assumptions you may be making that are wildly off, particularly if they’re on something more important than your hopes for relative OS market share on home computers.
You know what is wrong, is that you come along & talk about how no one wants to use virtual machines because it is difficult. I just got done saying someone would have automated the process. You act like no one would have the choice but for it to be cumbersome & difficult. That is called a tiny brain thought process…
They can’t do it right now cause vGPU is not supported on almost all consumer cards. There is absolutely a “root” layer BTW, in this case it would be the Linux kernel. It is far more technical than computers & then Windows “pops up.” Seriously, it is obvious you have no clue what you’re talking about, yet you’re here spewing false information, for what purpose?
People are waiting on the sidelines for a better OS, where they can feel less invaded by Windows bloat & invasiveness but where they can still play their games & run their Windows apps, which Wine doesn’t support everything. Thinks like Adobe products or Office solutions, a lot of users rely on these for work. Proton doesn’t solve everything. I appreciate optimism, but then there is also the real world.
Consider your assumptions, that you believe developers are so dumb that if users could use virtual GPUs on consumer cards, that developers wouldn’t be able to automate a solution that makes it simple.
I legit tried to understand how a lackluster VRAM capacity could spy on us.
Just wanna say, cool username
How could Snowden get a hold of one of these in Russia? Maybe through an intermediary in Kazakhstan?
Then again it’s hard finding one here even in the US since they all went out of stock within 5 minutes of being listed.
According to russian over at r/hardware GPUs have become cheaper in Russia since the ban as they are now being smuggled instead of imported via Europe with all extra cost that implies.
That doesn’t make sense or I’m reading it wrong
Smugglers take less money than government apparently
Legal weed is more expensive sometimes
Shut the fuck up, Snowden.You had everyone behind you until you defected to Russia. There’s no free lunch and you had a lot of info Putin would like to have. Oddly enough things really started getting bad shortly therafter.
You’d fit squarely as the village idiot in a 1984 sub plot.
Is that the reply you meant to write? Why don’t you try again, but think first.
Snowden goes to Russia and there’s no way Putin is letting him stay there without demanding that information.
If the shoe is on the other foot, the US would do the exact same. They brought Nazi rocket scientists over after WW2 and had them continue their work rether than putting them in jail to rot.
things really started getting bad shortly therafter
Things started getting bad waaaaay earlier than that.
Think of it from Snowdens perspective. You get to choose: either be tortured for the rest of your life, or chill in Russia and pretend Putin is a nice guy. I know what I’d pick.
He is not simply pretending Putin is a nice guy, he is clearly collaborating with russian security services. Just look at his comments on internal US politics. And he also was spreading misinformation that russia wasn’t going to invade Ukraine in Feb 2022.
He might be a hero for many, but if you’re Ukrainian (like I am), he is clearly a piece of shit.
Still it’s 100.0% USAs decisions that pushed him to Russia, it’s not like he went there immediately (2013), he was on the run and in shitty conditions for years before he finally had enough and went to Russia (2022).
USA still wanted to disappear (torture) him, not even allowing him to stay in other NATO or non-NATO countries.
A USA hero is safer in Russia, and Putin had nothing to do with setting that situation up (safe for not deporting him to USA ofc, which otc lol).
And how does this justify Snowden promoting russian genocidal imperialism in Ukraine?
He did a good thing, so now he is an untouchable saint?
I’m guessing that was a deal Russia made with him, he gets to live as long as he’s useful to Russia.
I don’t think anyone is calling him a saint. He’s a whistleblower whose best option was to defect to Russia, after a period of trying not to do that.
Treating him as a saint; because he revealed the NSA stuff, all his subsequent actions are justified and he should not be subject to criticism.
This is an extremely common view in some part of the English speaking internet.
I reject this approach. As far as I am concerned, I hope him and his family get to experience what they the wish upon Ukrainians in the occupied territories (getting sent to to a torture camp for speaking Ukrainian).
all his subsequent actions are justified
You’re putting words in my mouth. I’m saying his actions are understandable. He has no chance of returning to the US, his only real chance at a somewhat normal life is playing into Russia’s hand.
Whether someone thinks those actions are justified is an opinion. I’m merely stating the most likely explanation for his actions.
As far as I’m concerned, his usefulness to Americans concerned about government spying ended as soon as he exposed internal NSA docs. Everything else is merely him trying to survive. Make of that what you will.
I hope him and his family get to experience what they the wish upon Ukrainians
Ah yes, an eye for an eye, certainly the way to advance humanity.
Snowden took a flight from Hong Kong to Moscow on June 23, 2013, and he’s been in Russia ever since. Don’t know who told you he went to Russia in '22, he’s been there for a long time.
I totally get it, I live next to that big pain in the ass as well. Luckily, he hasn’t invaded us yet, but I feel it’s only a matter of time. And what Snowden does here certainly doesn’t help.
But he could have just done nothing and lived a very happy life. Instead, he chose to give up his happy life to uncover the NSA scandal, knowing full well that it will absolutely wreck his life.
Personally, I think he did enough for the greater good there. This isn’t his war, and if he has to post some lies to get a bit of normalcy back in his life, I can understand that. I wish it wasn’t that way, but I can understand it.
The issue is that he is supporting russian genocidal imperialism. His messaging clearly aligns with russian propaganda goals.
Is it not reasonable for me to consider him my enemy (he directly supports doing harm to me, my family and my fellow citizens)?
As far I am concerned, I hope Snowden and his family will one day be on the recieving end of russian brutality.
I don’t buy the logic of “he did one good thing, so it’s fine for him to promote russian genocidal imperialism”.
If he can’t stay consistent, he should have never got involved in the NSA issue in the first place.
He clearly enjoys the attention (just look at this post). He could have simply shut up and not worked with russian security services (the russians wouldn’t kill him, they need him alive).
His messaging clearly aligns with russian propaganda goals.
Well yeah, he’s in Russia. What’s he supposed to do?
He did one good thing. Now he’s in Russia, so ignore pretty much anything he days says that could in some way benefit Russia.
Why do they need him alive? Any information he has is a decade old at this point. He’s only useful to them alive while he has a platform.
No, he had a choice to keep quiet, but instead he chose to support russian genocidal imperialism. That makes him a bad person.
He is a PR win for russia, they are not going to harm him as that would undermine their interests.
Were you there? Were you privy to the circumstances? It could very well be the case that he was threatened. We don’t know, I just think it’s super sus that he started spewing pro-Russia nonsense only after his importance uncovering US govt documents was waning.
I think it’s highly likely he was pressured to make those statements.
Russia killing him is probably the only thing worse than them having him in the eyes of the USA.
Only we get to persecute/prosecute our own, its a mindset most sovereign nations have fwiw.
He did the wrong thing for the right reasons and hasn’t made many right choices since.
He really ought never have been a hero.
He was being chasen by the US government, and Assange proved that being in an US allied country will still get your arrested/tortured. What other options did Snowden had other than escaping to Russia?
IMO don’t hate the player, hate the game.
Yeah, I thought the same thing too at the time and that’s why I wrote it off. But the problem is that knowing how Putin is and what he does, what makes you think that he would let Snowden stay there in Russia without demanding any of that information as payment?
And if Snowden was so hard up for places to go that he had to go to Russia to escape extradition to the US what position would he be in to even say no if Russia demanded it?
Think about it. If someone came to the US to escape persecution in Russia for whistleblowing, you can damn well believe the US gov’t would demand info. They brought all those Nazi rocket scientists over to work rather than sending them to prison because of the knowledge they posssesed. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
without demanding any of that information as payment?
Can Putin not read The Intercept?
Does Putin even need to?
Snowden deleted all traces of that stash once he delivered it to the reporters. He’s in Russia 'cos it’s a way for Putin to annoy the US.
Every one who bought the 7900xtx laughing their arse off running 20GiB models with MUCH better performance than a 4080/4080Super lol
I bought my 7900XTX for $800, and have kept absolutely quiet about it.
Anyone who has asked me: “AMD sucks, CUDA better, buy NVDA stock”.
The invisible hand of the market is made of invisible delicious meat
I’m an idiot that waited. Saw a sapphire nitro 7900xtx on sale for €900 but didn’t get it holding out for the 5800. Now those are €1400 if you can find one and the 7900xtx is out of stock.
Have a 3080ti though so I’m not too bad off, just annoyed.
Don’t feel bad, neither AMD or NVIDIA (or Intel for that matter) have produced anything worthy of note in the GPU space since the 1080Ti or 6800XT. Keep your 3080ti, it’ll serve you well for now. Hopefully Morethreads or Intel make something interesting and disrupt the market although it’s unlikely. NV and AMD have the GPU spaced fairly locked with IP (and cash reserves) that would drown any competitor in legalese for a millennium. The 7900xtx is a helluva card because it competes with overpriced NVIDIA hw, in any sane world it would be a 7800 class card and priced accordingly. (like the 5080 is actually a 5070)
Snowden added, “As someone who wants to sweep away corruption, there’s a lot to like in the new ShamWow. And for those really tough, dirty stains, there’s OXYCLEAN!!! With ShamWow and Oxyclean, you don’t need to be Rushin’!”
Every time I see a headline that contains the word “slams,” I want to slam my head on the table
And the user who posted it. I really wish there was a simple way to block sensational posts from my feed.
Thanks for giving me the idea. BRB, making a keyword filter for the words “slams” and “slammed”.
Don’t forget blasted and clapped back.
Careful now, you might end up with few news posts
But then you lose out on a bunch of wrestling posts. And naked wrestling posts.
And nothing of value was lost.
I can’t see the context because it’s freaking X, but I bet that’s in reference to local ML hosting.
There’s a big movement to get away from corporate AI, and I don’t need to explain the importance of that to the Lemmy crowd. But Nvidia is indeed artificially crippling consumer VRAM to stop them from being used for that too much, and protect their enterprise GPU market.
The most bizzare thing is that AMD is inexplicably complicit even though they have like zero market share in that space. 48GB 7900s (and so on) would have obliterated Nvidia and sold like hotcakes, much less actually using their modular memory controller architecture… But no? They restricted their OEMs from doing that because they… Don’t want money, I guess.
AMD is much of a scum as Nvidia is or Intel was, that’s why DeepSeek is something that came from China and you would need a new player completely outside of the current chain.
I don’t see how that’s relevant, Deepseek was trained on, and is served on, Nvidia hardware.
And while I don’t disagree about AMD gouging, if AMD was to act like “scum,” they would screw over Nvidia’s pricing strategy.
But… they don’t. And lose for it.
It’s some combination of ignorance, corporate stupidity and straight up collusion, but it’s also the opposite of greed.
DeepSeek is just a recent example to the usual Microsoft or Google or Apple aka Nvidia-AMD and now at most Intel. This is not about which GPU can run what.
Deepseek is like an ant compared to OpenAI/Anthropic/Google, and they come from a completely different world, the actually competitive open LLM dev scene with dozens of companies publishing good models. I think this is a bad analogy, as AMD is not that small and new compared to Nvidia.
“They come from a completely different world.”
This is what I meant to say, not whether they’re good or bad. In this case, someone else to beat Nvidia then expecting either AMD or Intel (existing players) or even Apple (again, I am aware they don’t sell dedicated GPUs) to break the competition.
I’ll wait for the Julian Assange review.
