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    9 months ago

    I literally have a windows 10 installed that I haven’t logged in since before AI came up. WTF! I can only imagine the massive update when I try to login next time.

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            Hopefully, that includes the downvote parade you’re getting for being insufferable.

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              It was an observation, but hey everyone go ahead and downvote me anyway. Happy Valentine’s Day, y’all – i love ya anyway 🥂❤️

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    Problem I’ve had with all these “fixes” the issues come back or the OS craps the bed

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      9 months ago

      Just make the jump. I keep a cheap n100 box as a backup.

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    9 months ago

    just use linux lmao

    did i type this right? are you going to upvote my comment

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    9 months ago

    Although im part of the Linux crowd, if you’re tired of reapplying debloat scripts every update, you could get the W10 IoT LTSC edition that only has security patches with no updates. You will have to pirate it though.

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      9 months ago

      This might be interesting. I’m looking to have a few installs to test some of my programs in an actual Windows environment without having to daily drive Windows and without having to deal with all the unnecessary changes MS wants to make.

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          Neat. I tried this last night on my once top of the line machine (in 2012) because why not…

          It didn’t upgrade my win10 install but at least it didn’t delete all my data. Maybe I goofed on that as I was tired.

          I used the 23H2 iso but it installed 22H2.

          I didn’t use the script, it picked up my existing valid key.

          It fails to update. Perhaps that’s the point or bloat would come back?

          But if it can’t update then what’s the point?

          Again, might be my fault but I’m not really trusting this image yet. Not enough to reinstall and relicense my tools.

          I use Linux where I can but I’m bound to some windows-only proprietary software. I do use a stripped down win10 VM for a lot of it but at least it updates.

          Will update this comment if i find that I’m at fault.

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      9 months ago

      A non pirate solution is Windows Server Essentials 2022. It’s like $300, has zero bloat and updates don’t ever hijack your settings. Oh and you’ll get over 10 years of security patches.

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        does Windows Server Essentials comes with a desktop GUI? Can you install Steam and things like that like you’d normally do in Windows?

        I’m happy with Linux, but my brother who is a gamer has Windows but he’s annoyed af by updates and the AI nonsense. This seems like a perfect solution.

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          Yes it is regular Windows but stripped of all the consumer apps like TikTok and CandyCrush. It has one extra app: Server Manager (A GUI like Control Panel with buttons to disk manager, device manager etc) which loads at startup and is easily disabled. Under the hood the registry has changes that tell Windows to give background tasks equal resources to the foreground app. This is needed for server use for smoother multitasking like Linux, but at the expense of a few FPS in games. You can edit the registry in regular Windows to act like Server and vice versa. They use the same kernel.

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            This is intriguing. Does it still try to force you to use a Microsoft account? Would make no sense for a server version, but you never know with microsoft’s bullshit sometimes.

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      I do both and happy with debloated Windows 11 Enterprise with automatic updates restricted to security only. Pirating now is running a powershell command that fetches activation scripts from github.

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    To this point just use Linux already. You will be doing a lot of telemetry cleaning and even might be breaking things.

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      9 months ago

      or use the enterprise edition which is the only windows edition with an option to disable telemetry using group policy editor. in the other versions, you have to resort to terrible hacks.

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        It is bad the AMD support in windows. In Linux is better in my case. For sysadmin sorry but powershell is overengineered garbage. You need a very long command when in shell you got in three pipes. Even what are your proposing its hard to do, and sincerely i think it is better to just use a sane linux distro.

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    9 months ago

    What changed in windows 10? Mine looks the same as before.

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      9 months ago

      Per the article they are rolling out bing’s ai search

      Follow up to Microsoft saying all their keyboards will need/include an ai hotkey button to bring up the ai search

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        For fuck sake Microsoft.

        At least I disabled the web search in the search bar long ago. I think I disabled it because of a bug that messed up search.

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        There’s a nix based distro called SnowFlake that I am not sure why but think might be interesting for you.

        Might be your whining. Will never know, I guess

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          You’re hilarious! Your projection is truly first class. I’m amazed that you think it’s totally fine for some nix bro to post the exact same comment on every post about windows but anyone who dissents is a snowflake. Get the fuck over yourself.

          You’re truly an embarrassment to us linux enjoyers.

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        Like clockwork! Almost as reliable as the OS /s

        Linux has no mainstream advertising so word-of-mouth is the only way it gets adopted.

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          It’s also about the customer having better options beyond “modify the ever-living shit out of Windows until it behaves”. Microsoft only does these things because they know how many hundreds of millions of customers are locked into their ecosystem. No matter what they do, no matter how poorly they treat their customers, they’ll keep coming back to buy more! So why should they care? Why should they slow down or offer some privacy-friendly version for anything below $1000 per person? Hell, I’m surprised Microsoft hasn’t been steadily raising the price of Windows over the years. Not like the customers are going to actually switch, right?

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        Honestly, I would switch to Linux if it didn’t take so much time to learn. I’ve messed around on a Raspberry π 4th gen board, but have no real experience. To really make the Linux jump, I’d need a tutor or something.

        Also I don’t know which of my games will be compatible.

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          9 months ago

          I finally switched to Linux as my daily driver (gaming, browsing, watching stuff) a week ago. Admittedly I have been using it at work for a few years.

          • I chose Pop!_OS as a distribution, because it supposedly streamlines nvidia driver hassles and I wanted to give it a try
          • Installed the OS, Discord, Steam, no problems
          • Installed and played Raft, Vampire Survivors, TW Warhammer 3, Outer Wilds, no problems and no additional config needed

          Just to add a voice to the positive feedback! If you have a spare computer or hard drive, I absolutely encourage you to try it out!

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          Most games are compatible, you can also check https://protondb.com/ for each game, how people play it and how they run it. It’s a very neat website!

          About the jump: Do it now, and you’ll thank yourself later. I did it with no prior experience myself and didn’t find it difficult at all tbh, as previous comment suggested, try Mint first of you’re afraid. And if you want an easy to use one that also focus on a bit of gaming then try PopOS! Don’t let the amount of choices discourage or confuse you, just pick one and go with it. Feel free to message me if you ever need any help 🌻

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          Mint and Debian are great, and once you set everything as you like it, they’re pretty solid. Pop_OS is easy if you have an Nvidia GPU too.

          As for comparability, proton has all but settled the issue. The SteamDeck runs on Linux after all. Take a look on Proton Database to check if a game works well or not. FWIW, every game I’ve tried save one has been flawless, and that one did things with files and wallpapers.

          If you have a second computer you don’t need working, I’d recommend just trying something on it, switch distributions now and then. See how far you can get with just Linux.

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    As someone who uses windows to produce music, bloat is a huge issue, latencymon Is a great tool to check for programs and drivers that can cause audio dropouts.

    And win 11 has been great, didn’t have to change much to get it to work. I tried several forms of Linux and it was too slow, driver issues, and plugins that were impossible to get working.

    Win 10 was bad, but 7 was worse.

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      As someone who uses windows to produce music

      Exactly and some other media/creative stuff as well. Windows is the only way to run Ableton with full VST support on my own hardware. Then if I’m going to need a Windows workstation anyway, I might as well use it for gaming too, and lump in all my other “power station” uses. It’s sometimes frustrating when you mention this and people who aren’t familiar with these programs to try to debate you or assume you haven’t entertained the alternatives. In my case I run Linux on my laptop and servers, and even some of my instruments like the monome norns and m8 are rpi based. Real time audio synthesis on linux is actually amazing, PureData and Supercollider are the ones I’m somewhat familiar with.

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        Yeah but slightly lower latency is irrelevant really, windows based can get lower than 2ms now. And it just works.

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      It really is a shame that music production is so painful in Linux. All I need to make the final switch

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        After leaving Macs (and Logic) (Apple software great, Apple iMac shit) switched to LInux over 10 years ago. Haven’t made music since (hardware in boxes). Fully learned that Linux music ain’t got that swing.

        I recently heard that newer PipeWire has improved things a quite a lot. Haven’t tried it yet … not sure I remember how to play any instruments any more.

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          You could try bitwig, the daw is really good and has a native linux client for years.

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        JACK is very cool and if you’re willing to tinker there’s some really awesome stuff that can be done with LADISH session management and e.g. native Linux VSTs.

        It’s still a non-option for musicians who just want to do music, not tinkering.

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          I was mostly referring to the latency. RTOS kernel prioritizes timing over performance, so it should be right up your alley when it comes to music handling. I know it has been used in some instruments and mixers.

          Jack is kind of iffy to tinker around I agree, however PipeWire, which is these days standard on up to date distributions should handle latency much much better without any great need for tinkering as it supports all the interfaces of Jack, PulseAudio and others. So you can just use whichever application you want and you get low latency backend regardless.

          Things are improving at a rather fast pace in Linux world and even giving developers feedback is a useful contribution.

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            Thank you! I know all these things. This still doesn’t help when the DAW support and VST compatibility aren’t there.

            If you’re intent on doing music production on Linux, at least do yourself a favor and get a Reaper license, there are few enough pro DAWs that are Linux native. But be aware that many of the big industry VSTs are still not going to work. If you’re fine sticking to e.g. ZynAddSubFX or Pianoteq, though, knock yourself out.

            But you can’t reasonably expect musicians to jump those hoops and abandon their fav VSTs when their Windows tooling is there, and works.

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              Am not expecting anything. Am just wondering how people in the industry are fairing with recent changes.

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      9 months ago

      Sir, may I offer you the holy scriptures that are the Arch wiki?

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          Because they’re the ones that constantly make a fuss and are overall holding back the computing world by supporting a malicious organization that has a choke hold.

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          The people saying to switch to Linux are half-joking, half-serious. Sometimes we can be a little too pushy by bringing up “just switch to Linux” too often, but usually we have good intentions for at least trying to encourage the switch, and it often-times does come from a place of care.

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      Are you saying they should install Linux?

      I know Rufus has options to modify the Windows image before writing it to your USB stick but AFAIK Balena can’t write Windows images.

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    I’m tired of playing the debloat game, especially with the frequency of Windows updates that undo and add things.