Instagram and Facebook have addicted users for the last 20 years, making sure to monetize us through advertisers every step of the way. Now, they’re revisiting your old posts, your special moments, and your big life updates, and using it to create billion-dollar AI tools. Zuckerberg’s braggadocious claim about Meta’s very large dataset comes shortly after The New York Times sued OpenAI over intellectual property. But Meta is pulling an old trick out of its playbook: extracting as much value out of Instagram and Facebook users as humanly possible, and totally owning your online self.

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    9 months ago

    Has anyone shown an AI that actually solves any problems besides wasting billions of tech dollars? I have “AI” in every browser, search engine and a bunch of sites. And every time I’ve tried using it it’s garbage. I have to refine basic queries multiple times and still then need to verify the answers. I’ve tried creative writing projects or to generate ideas and it splurts out the same rehashed shit I get on an initial web search. What’s the fucking point you techbro idiots?!

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      I find it immensely useful.

      I run copilot-equivalent things locally for code autocomplete and suggestions. It’s about even in terms of language specific snippets in terms of productivity gains there.

      I’ve run my resume through it to have it inject HR buzzwords into all my bullet points, and i think it looks much better as a result. (The AI is way more flattering about my work that I am, myself). For something like ChatGPT specifically, i hand it my resume along with job listings and have it rate my fit, give explanations as to why, and highlight areas the company would like to know about, which makes writing cover letters trivial.

      Nvidia has an AI feature that guesses and fills in frames, making it so a game only needs to generate about 30fps to get the user equivalent of 120fps, drastically improving performance on both low and high end machines even adding in the cost of running the neural net.

      You’re limiting your view of “AI” into what enters the news cycle, and like most things in the news cycle, they’re almost completely off the mark and more focused on the doom and gloom aspects.

      My future career is perfectly gears towards integrating AI into people’s normal workflow so people can work with the accelerating affects of technology, instead of feeling replaced by it.

      All that being said, jobs like screenwriters have good reason to be worried. Even a bad AI can make a better script that 80% of what comes out of hollywood these days.

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      I have to refine basic queries multiple times and still then need to verify the answers.

      So it’s like talking to a person or using a search engine?

      You seriously expect or want it to be infallible magic? And then, even if it appeared to be, you would stop verifying its work?? Sounds like an unrealistic and problematic way to view it no matter how good it gets.

      I use an llm-- GitHub copilot–every day and I find it pretty helpful.

      I would agree that ai/LLM right now is sort of floundering in most products, but your stance that it’s absolutely useless trash just is not accurate

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        I expect it to be better than a search engine. Otherwise what’s the point? It’s slower and often gives me incorrect info. So I just have to check the sources anyways.

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          You’re using (probably poorly) an early version of a probably not great implementation of a technology and expecting it to be perfect. That’s not realistic at all. Then you’re declaring it a useless technology because of your anecdotal experience. Ai can be helpful and will only get more so, whether or not you find it useful right now

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            Ai can be helpful

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            People are saying it’s useful now. I said I have found NO uses for it. And people get pissy that their new tech isn’t exciting most people. To the majority of us, this seems like another crypto/NFT scam. And for the actual use cases we’ve had for years and years: we already had a name for that: algorithms. People are calling damn near everything AI these days in the same manner as generative text AIs and making no distinction. It’s a useless buzzword where the only people that seem excited about it are billionaire tech bros and to anyone who’s been paying attention that’s a red flag.

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              No, people get “pissy” when you make wild and absolute claims about something you clearly know nothing about.

              And yeah I’m not sure how I’m being crypto scammed by paying for a service that clearly helps me a lot in my daily life.

              Wanna make any random absolute claims about dark energy while you’re at it?

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      It didn’t. FB still recognize my face when familly members post a pic with me My profile still exist, and so is the social graph.

      I tried to log in after years of no use , to find a Delete all data" button - Can’t log in anymore (no password resets, no recovery process).

      " You stopped using us, it doesn’t mean we will stop using you"

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          I’ve just started deleting my stuff. Their mass delete doesn’t seem to work and it looks like i need to do it one at a time manually. Argh.

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    Hard for old Zuck to use my data to train his garbage products when I’ve never provided that data to begin with. 1 for me, 0 for the zuck.

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    I’m the weirdo who always reads the privacy policy at the bare minimum. I’ve opted out of a lot of services/apps/games/sites because of their privacy policy over the years.

    Look it is bullshit they can get away with this crap but right now we only have the existing outdated legislation to work with. The absolute explosion of how technology and social media impacts the world has changed RAPIDLY in the last 15 years. It was once quaint that Obama did reddit AMA or posted a tweet.

    So my point is yes be mad but ultimately it is out responsibility to be proactive with the tools that we have, and that’s privacy policies and ToS. Like you’re skipping through the villain’s monologe laying out every step of their evil plan then shocked at the consequences.

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    It’s funny to go on Facebook and see 20 year old accounts that haven’t updated their profile pic since 2009. Facebook is the corpse of a social media platform used to trade yardsale trash and post christmas cards. Your facebook AI is going to excel at posting right-wing memes and helping people find their lost pets.

    As for instragram. Now introducing InfluencerGPT.

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    If you are not paying for some service, you and your data are almost certainly the product. It was true then, it’s still true today.

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        What do the terms of use and privacy policies say? Who’s paying for the servers and what are they getting out of it? Also, since your data is federated, what happens when it hits a server with any different policies (or who may be in violation of the license of the software itself, but is getting no enforcement)?

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Mark Zuckerberg bragged about his vast library of content, which includes all your posts, reels, and comments, during Meta’s earnings call Thursday.

    “We estimate [this] is greater than the Common Crawl dataset, and people share large numbers of public text posts in comments across our services as well.”

    Zuckerberg’s braggadocious claim about Meta’s very large dataset comes shortly after The New York Times sued OpenAI over intellectual property.

    But Meta is pulling an old trick out of its playbook: extracting as much value out of Instagram and Facebook users as humanly possible, and totally owning your online self.

    Without any grand announcement or notice to users, Meta has essentially claimed ownership of your public social media profile and will use it to generate billions of dollars.

    Book publishers and news organizations understand how valuable this data is to AI, but social media users, once again, are being thrown to the curb.


    The original article contains 570 words, the summary contains 151 words. Saved 74%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    Thank you ZuccBot for turning my Facebook profile into a corpo friendly AI, I’m sure this will totally not become sentient and kill us all.

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      There’s another aspect: profiling ! Either for targeted ad, psychological warfare, election manipulation (cambridge analytica style), and and and … !

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        glad to see i’m not the only one who see’s exactly how this tech will be used.

        Now they won’t even need to create political ads, they can generate the most manipulative and effective ones with AI for the highest bidder!

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      More like a self-obsessed AI with an eating disorders, obsessed with food and conspiracy theories, and a knack for grooming kids.

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      I still have Instagram, but only because my friends do; and believe me, I’ve tried to get them to move over to Mastodon, to no avail.

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        I am sorry to ask this, and I hope you’ll see it as the curiosity it is.

        Is instagram that necessary? I mean, not in the “Dont you have alternatives?” way, but rather in the “Do you need something LIKE instagram?”/“Do you really need to know so much about your friends?” sort of way. I don’t have instagram, and when friends want to hang out or do something or talk, they just call me on my phone. That’s pretty much the only way I know about the stuff thats happening.

        Anything else I just don’t really have the interest to know or find out. I can’t see the utility in keeping in such enmeshed, deep contact with people via Instagram. The people I really talk to everyday are on whatsapp and that’s usually where we talk.

        For some time now I’ve been wondering if something was wrong with me socially, and your comment put that thought back in my head.

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          I am abroad and have lots of friends that won’t download WhatsApp, so I use Instagram to contact them. Also, a couple of family friends have reached out to me with news or something. It does have a niche for me as a messaging app like Facebook, even if the only reason I use it is simply because other people won’t not use it.

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          They’re still not interested. It’ll take a paywall or something to get them to move on, although they’re not exactly fans of AI…

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            The hardest selling point of the Fediverse regarding AI is that it is the most scrapable form of social media. To companies like Facebook and Twitter, it offers up its data on a silver platter with well documented and limitless APIs.

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    I can’t wait for AI to master the psychological manupulation scumbag liar e-beggers use to create it’s own gofundmes and cashapp drives, then maybe it can become finally profitable