Cross posted from technologies . Sorry just really need answers. And they seem to just enjoy down voating at the moment .

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    9 months ago

    Oh, that’s quite some requrements. I honestly don’t know, I operate my own small instance for me and my family. I just wanted to add that matrix is supposed to be end-to-end encryped. So if you activate that in your chats and rooms, the server operator can’t read your messages anyways. But they can collect metadata. For example they know when and who you’re texting and they know where you’re connected from. But they can’t see the actual messages.

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            9 months ago

            Not in the technical sense. I mean you can choose if your data packets traverse the Atlantic, but I don’t think that’s noticeable in a messenger. It changes the legislation, though. Since you mentioned security and privacy as goals… There are laws server admins have to abide to. And these laws vary greatly amongst countries. For example the whole EU has stricter privacy laws than most of the US. And there are things like lawful interception, the intelligence apparatus and general surveillance. I’d keep that in my mind when looking for the most secure server.

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        9 months ago

        This is misleading. Matrix respects the e2ee setting that you choose when creating a room, and it’s enabled by default.

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        9 months ago

        I don’t know why you feel it’s necessary to write that several times. Yes, Matrix doesn’t enforce e2ee, that’s why I said you’d need to make sure to enable it. But what is your point? You can use Matrix how you like, with or without, make it secure or not. Sure that has implications. But Lemmy is also not end-to-end-encrypted. Neither is a private conversation in my livingroom… Other messengers have features to backup or restore keys, or to flag and moderate posts, which may in some cases circumvent e2ee. Or not. So what’s your jist? Would you like us to use a different messenger? I’d be happy to hear constructive arguments. I also had issues with niche clients not supporting encryption or not supporting emoji verify since they aren’t forced to implement it.

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          Because human error is a risk. Most orgs that hsvr these requirements won’t adopt software that allows messages to be sent without e2ee because its a risk

          I’d like to find a way to adopt Matrix such that its not possible for users to send or receive unencrypted messages.

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    9 months ago

    All of them allow messages that are not end-to-end encrypted, so the answer is none.

    If I’m wrong, please pount me to an instance that blocks messages that are not end-to-end encrypted. Please.

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      Whether to use encryption is a per-room setting, not per-server. It’s controlled by the person who creates the room, not the server admin. It’s on by default, and cannot be switched off later.

      Rooms can be created without it because that makes sense for large public rooms, like those migrating from IRC, where privacy would defeat the purpose.

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      9 months ago

      Can someone vouch for this gal/guy or debunk him.

      EDIT : I don’t think that is suitable for me because in the rules he says conspiracy theory rooms not allowed ! Like sightings of spaghetti monster or ufo . Like what is wrong with people enjoying what they like if it is harmless ? Are they going to snoop around every room and ban them ? I didn’t fully read the rules had to stop it there but that doesn’t sound very private i can get behind illegal things . But silly conspiracy really ?