• AsterixTheGoth@lemmy.ml
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    I use both interchangeably. With no pattern. Much like how programs will spell check “colour”. Lives are changed in equal quantities.

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      Island originally didn’t have an ‘s’ in it. Language is defined based on use, not origin.

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    I hate this argument, that’s literally what the creators of the format called it. Names of things don’t always follow the rules of English.

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      You are right except: there are no rules in english, and this isn’t an argument, its a joke.

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      Names of things don’t have to follow “the rules of english” to change and morph with who is using them.

      Acting like there is any immutable qualities to any language or word is kinda silly.

      Currently, with the common opinion split pretty well, the correct answer for how to say it is “‘gif’ or ‘jif’”. Call it whichever you want.

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    None of the pronounciation rules or other linguistic arguments matter.

    The important point is, we’ve had this file format for decades. We’ve called it hard-g GIF for decades. I created GIFs in the 90s. There was even a JIF format at the same time, so we definitely didn’t pronounce GIF that way.

    No matter what the creator says, or how you pronounce SCUBA… GIF is pronounced like GIFT without the T and it always has been. If you say otherwise I’d be willing to bet you weren’t on the internet in the 90s or 00s.

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      Where the fuck did I find someone in real life to talk to about image formats? I always thought it was j. I can’t even recall any conversations about it until the 2010s.

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      Sorry but no. Jif is what i said back then, and what i will say until i die. All the people i know have been calling it jif like “giraffe” and we will forever call it that. But if someone called it hard g gif i can understand what they are talking about just fine and i would literally pay 0 attention to it. Have better things to do. abcdef…gif.

  • Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world
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    Gin? Genetics? Giant?

    Do you pronounce Origin like Oregon?

    I personally find arguing pronunciation as entirely pointless when there are many words in English that get pronounced different based on a multitude of factors.

    People also like to argue it’s an acronym, but do you pronounce NASA the same as you pronounce the first letter of each word of National Aeronautics and Space Administration?

    Honestly? Just say it how it makes sense to you.

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      People also like to argue it’s an acronym, but do you pronounce NASA the same as you pronounce the first letter of each word of National Aeronautics and Space Administration?

      Um, yes?

      I’m assuming we’re talking about the two A letters here, since nothing comes to mind about a different pronunciation of N or S in American English.

      In American English - at least in my experience - the first sound in aeronautics is exactly the same as in “air,” which is also the same as in “administration.” We don’t generally say it as in “ear-onautocs.”

      Also, I’m curious - has anyone ever published a study describing whether or not the difference in pronunciation differs between sectors in the computer science community? Particularly, is there a difference between normal developers and those who write in a Lisp?

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      Not to mention the creator of GIF prefers the JIF pronunciation.

      It doesn’t really matter, but I find the hard g folks have a stick up their ass about it.

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        I understand your point in the creator but I find fault in that argument.

        Historically it doesn’t matter what the creator of anything prefers unless it’s an “unveiling” and they name it on the spot. People in general will take something and run with it regardless of the creators intent. The perfect example is “light saber” versus “laser sword.” (Edit forgot to add the word sword after laser)

        To be honest I don’t care all that much. If you say jif or gift without the t, either way I know what you are talking about.

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    10 months ago

    Garage had two Gs, both pronounced different.

    Both are correct, imo. However, it’s hard to stand by that when you have to spell it JIF for people to know you are using the J variation of G.

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        gə-ˈräZH

        but seriously, any time some one says they use the J sound, they explain by spelling it JIF. It’s just a joke though. No one cares how you pronounce it.