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I don’t mean this in a horrible way, but a lot of people on here are extremely entitled when it comes to immigration.The US is an incredibly hard place to move to, even if you are a skilled worker. While it often is easier to move into Europe or Canada, it’s not a given that you can just walk into any of these countries and expect to live there. Immigration is hard!
Yes. As someone who’s emigrated and researched it I can say many desirable countries are more difficult to get in to than the US.
American’s attitude that they can just “leave” with a passport and a backpack is just another form of American exceptionalism.
Can we see the time scale greater than 2 days?
Once the US backs out of NATO I’m sure the prospect of living here won’t be as enticing.
Canada is still well protected, unlike rest of Europe which has a land border with Russia. Post Ukraine, it’s the turn of ex Soviet states (i.e. Lithuania, etc) to start googling where to move?
The Artic boarder has been being disputed with Russia for awhile now, once NATO loses its strongest backing, Russia is going to be getting closer to there neighbours in the north.
I looked into it, they don’t really want you unless your rich.
We’ll take doctors and nurses no problem. And funny, I expect a bunch of American doctors are likely to want to take their practice elsewhere in the near future
Any country immigration program wants rich or/and skilled or/and very highly educated people, and i didn’t even started about USA immigration programs, they are in another league entirely, you can’t just immigrate into USA even if you are one of the aforementioned categories
Most Americans wouldn’t pass an US immigration test.
Most Canadians wouldn’t pass a Canadian immigration test.
Correct. Canada and Mexico BOTH have “closed” borders and don’t just accept immigrants. In Mexico you cannot get citizenship and cannot own property. Canada actively complains to our sheriffs on the northern border for letting people go over to the north.
Too cold
I did that when Trump won the first time.
It’s not easy to emigrate there with the way their system is set up. If you’re older and poor, nope. If you’re older and middle class, nope. That points system and Canadian first job market will make it very hard to move there.
If you’re rich, yup easy as pie but then again, if you’re rich, why would you leave this grifter’s paradise?
I did try because honestly I loss a lot of faith in America when that Nazi won the first time and I basically got nowhere even though I’m in tech.
Canada is no different than most other developed nations in their immigration requirements.
I’m not saying that other nations don’t have a stringent immigration system, I’m simply pointing out that all of these first time searchers are going to be in for a rude awakening.
Exactly. People from the US are always surprised they are not a default privileged class all over the world.
Yes. I try to educate them when I see this particular form of American exceptionalism. They think that for the price of a plane ticket they will get a Fantasy Island welcome with Mr Roark and a harem of women waiting to wipe their ass with silk.
I suspect you’re joking. But most developed countries wont accept anyone with a criminal record.
Watch out, america doesn’t send their best. They are undereducated rapists. Some of them might be good people, who knows.
Wall streat is also going up… For me, as a European with ETFs, it feels like I’ll now benefit from the fact that Americans voted for self-exploitation… And that feels kind of weird…
Honestly the jump in the etfs is kind of crazy. I expected a rebound from the recent dip but not like that
Canada has a high likelihood of electing its own conservative government next year…
Having Trump getting elected down south might help as people will realize that it’s not a fucking joke and strategic voting is necessary.
Conservatives are winning next time around in Canada. It’s set in stone at this point.
Americans don’t realize we have our own lil JD primed and ready to take over here as well, funded and helped by Republican strategists and think tanks oh boy.
I am losing my fucking mind and my misanthropy is exploding ngl
It’s truly awful. I can’t look anyone in their eyes. All I can think about are how many of them voted my rights away by electing Trump again. I’ve never felt so isolated and desperate. I’m in a red state that outvoted Democrats 2:1, so it’s extra bad.
I’m feeling like I never want to participate in community things around here ever again. No handing out candy, no helping neighbors shovel their snow, no making friends without asking who they fucking voted for. Hell, I don’t even want to travel to see my R-voter relatives for the holidays. I’m putting all visits on hold, which is gonna really piss them of, because this is the first grandkid’s (our son) first holidays.
To be honest, I’m feeling sick for even choosing to have him despite my better judgment, which is the worst feeling to have while looking at your baby. It was in a period of hope that maybe we’d be able to overcome that orange fucker’s influence, but now look where we are. I feel like I’ve sentenced him to a fate worse than death to have brought him into this world at this time in this country. Especially with the climate certainly being extra fucked now.
FUCK THIS.
Ah, yeah - that’s another thing. I’m a dude, but I’d been waffling on whether I should try to have kids for a while now. This has made the choice for me. I’m getting a vasectomy.
I don’t think that’s a crazy choice. I kinda wish I had had my tubes tied like many of my friends did when Roe was overturned. But then I wouldn’t have my wonderful baby son. It’s hard.
Life here is shit but welcome
That would require money, which most of the working class does not have.
The people spewing this rhetoric are those higher up the food chain; moving out of the US was also said in 2016 and 2020.
This is a typical process similar to other countries as well.
tbh it’s much more difficult to migrate legally to the US
True!
I wonder if the numbers will have an impactful change when comparing the people that said they would move out of the U.S. due to 2016/2020/2024.
