I’m over this word enshitification. There are far simpler ways to say it, but everyone online has latched on to this moronic term.
It’s a good term, but so often people use it to mean “got bad” when Cory’s definition was much more specific in regards to platforms abusing monopoly power on their users and businesses.
Honest question: What are the alternstives?
I agree that enshittification is a, well, shitty term, but I know obly it to describe the problem at hand.
Alternstives I think of are walled gardens, collapse of the internet as we know it, lockdown of social media sites, etc. - none of them all that simple and miss the point enshittification has.
Decay?
Decay is a natural process however that just happens if you don’t stop it. I still think ‘enshittification’ fits it best because it implies a bit of intentionality on the part of the shittifiers.
The term is sticky (ewww) and I think we are stuck with it.
Yeah. ‘Decay’ has a natural whiff to it, while ‘enshittification’ reeks of it being actively made that way.
And I’m over the word “impactful” but people keep using that clunky ass word when they mean ‘significant’.
I’m actually glad for it. It made me switch to Linux, discover Mullvad Browser and their VPN combo, get a GrapheneOS phone, find an amazing Freetube YT desktop client, and dabble with Home Assistant and PIHole. Plus I migrated to Protonmail and Kagi as my search, and Lemmy instead of reddit is also an amazing change, the discussions I’ve seen so far feel better and more in depth, and I’m enjoying my time here so far. The lack of endless content is also great, to help with implementing Digital Minimalism.
So, while I hate any large corporation and their greed with more and more passion, it has lead me to a nice privacy journey, for which I’m glad.
Looked into Kagi. Seems interesting. Personally, I use either Brave search or Searx. There’s was post over at Linux@lemmy.ml about open source alternatives to ChatGPT and I might look into those. But I definitely keep Kagi in mind. By the way, How good is Kagi for,um… “sailing the high seas”?
Same for me. I switched to Linux, left reddit currently migrating to proton mail and my next phone will be one where I can install Graphene OS onto. More changes will come soon.
Can you use tap to pay?
True and very annoying in the same time! The web is ruined :(
I haven’t noticed any slowdowns with Firefox and Ublock Origin.
I’ve noticed YT seems to be loading a bit slower than normal, but it still takes less than a few seconds so I don’t really mind.
You’re lucky. I run FF and uBlock and get the pause sometimes. Still better than using YT without uBlock, though.
I take a 2min pause of silence over 30 seconds of ads any day.
Honestly, I just use the internet less. I’m never going to pay. I can’t be bothered with the loopholes anymore. If it bugs me to pay or subscribe, I leave. I’m fine with them not wanting me as a user, and I hope they’re fine with me not wanting them as a supplier. They don’t have anything that I actually need that badly.
Oddly enough I probably use the internet more than ever. It’s just not that internet.
Yeah YouTube brings me a ton of value and I wouldn’t mind paying a bit for it.
Not $14 a month though.
Weirdly, the only parts of the Internet that I’m really liking these days are Hacker News, Lemmy and the one part that I do pay for, which is Kagi Ultimate. It is very refreshing not to be the product and I do occasionally need to use a search engine for something.
Kagi AstroTurfing needs to stop… Fuck off.
People genuinely like Kagi. I dont really see the problem
I doubt 1% of the comments are genuine users and not themselves botting/faking comments just to inject advertising.
oh, i’m totally over it. it’s so liberating to not care about their shitty little digital hell they’ve created. this and discord are literally the only places I interact with people on the internet.
Every time I feel this way, I take one more step to getting rid of one of the offending parties.
I’m like 50% off gmail (proton mail rules), 100% off gdrive/google maps, all in on libre office, proton VPN, little snitch, and about to boot linux onto one of my old MBPro‘s so I can start transitioning over to using Linux as a daily driver. I’m new to it but I’m decently tech savvy so I think I can find a distro that is a decent balance of privacy, control, but still user-friendly.
The list goes on, and a lot needs to be done, but my experience at my computer and online in general has been slowly improving over the last year or two since I’ve gotten more aggressive about it. Also leaving Reddit helped lol
Yeah.
And we can still block entire sites on the web.
The sites the friends with adblockers promote.
The friends who don’t notice what they promote.
What unholy bastards the people who own the sites they promote are.
Not to mention sites blacklisting VPN IPs
my own site for my very small business gets about 10 legit visitors a week, none of which have ever connected via a known vpn address (dating back some 15 years). another 100 page views a week on average from legit bots (msn, google, etc).
the rest (and well over 95% of overall traffic) is bots, scrapers, and hackers, many of which use addresses linked to vpn services and pound the sites on the server looking for exploitable scripts (wordpress related, usually; which we’ve never run here), login and contact forms. if i could simply ‘flip a switch’ and redirect all vpn traffic to a separate landing page, i would seriously consider doing so. it wouldn’t affect site availability to our legit users and our target audience. but for now, mod_security is doing a stellar job and is the mvp.
Peak internet was like 10-15 years ago
I don’t really miss when even getting stable 100KBps is considered lucky
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10-15 years is 2009/10 - 2013/14, not 2003.
You’d have to ve in a crazy rural region for 100kbps…In 2009 there was such a provider (talking about Moscow region in Russia) as Skylink, which gave good connectivity in rural areas and Skype traffic was unlimited (I’m not making it up). It was good enough for Skype voice calls.
Third world country is might as well a crazy rural region, yes.
Thing is, most people don’t want to pay for services that to them seemed to be free since forever. And this creates collective social pressure to follow suit. Nothing a big company offers is ever free. You’re just paying in alternate currency.
Screw em companies, only Lemmy devs get my money.
It’s gross though. Say you started to pay, they would still force ads into their product because they’re greedy and demanding more money. We’re seeing this with streaming sites now.
The funny thing is with youtube, for example, I am a premium user. I deactivated all tracking of my habits on there. Now I am greeted, as a homepage, with nothing else than a call to action to reactivate said tracking. As a paying customer I see less (as in none at all) content on the homepage than an anonymous user would. I am subbed to 170+ channels. Yet they tell me they cannot come up with suggestions unless they can track my every step on their platform. sus. And when saying funny I mean extremely aggravating.
Web 2.0 desperately clinging to life. FOSS self hosted web is the future. Internet speeds are fast enough on home networks that self hosting is perfectly viable for essentially everything, and for the few things that can’t be self hosted by just anyone, FOSS alternatives and work arounds to existing paid services exist.
Internet is becoming harder to monopolize, and increasing amounts of power and control are being handed back to the working class online. FOSS has become a movement that has grown exponentially over the last few years.
Their next recourse will be attempting to make jail time a thing for piracy. Both for hosting it and downloading it.
There’s certainly a bubble bursting. You only have to look at all the layoffs.fyi since COVID. I’m just hoping it’s happening in a slow enough way that it’s not going to take more legitimate companies with it.
AI is the next bubble. It will hit a brick wall either legally or just on functionality (maybe both). I can see uses for targeted models, bespoke to a use case, but training those is too expensive right now. General models are just toys IMHO. Unfortunately it’s going to get a few years for everyone to realise.
You are going to train the AI that replaces you. They aren’t going to tell you that though. I’m starting comprehensive plans so that any future work I do can’t be fed into AI. Making hardware that just dumps random input when I’m not using it. Isolating and containing any human input that does happen. Distributing my work across as many devices as possible to only give each it’s single app use worth of data.
The brick wall on AI is not functionality. It’s cost of running the neural networks. It’s simply not financially realistic to integrate ChatGPT into everything.
It’s not so simple. I’ve been trying to go the foss self-hosted way, as well as help p2p projects, and I got stuck because I’m behind a cgnat, unable to forward ports, and my shitty isp has no ipv6. I can’t afford vpns at the moment, so I got stuck. Besides, all that needed a lot of tech skills most people won’t have. This is a serious barrier of entry for a lot of people.
Some one will say something offensive or a slight threat and the government will charge you for a crime like you did it.
They want the Internet to be HR speak only.
It does seem like FLOSS is experiencing a renaissance due to rampant commercialization of the web
It’s actually making me go outside
I’m disgusted XD
The browser in my computer at work doesn’t have an ad blocker. I haven’t installed one because I most of the time I’m using it to access our intranet. But when I do happen to use the internet, damn are there so many ads! They literally block the content I’m trying to read, and come back even when I try to close it.
All that to say, due to enshittification I will forever keep my ad blocker on my personal computer.
I’m baffled when companies that self-host DNS don’t have DNS-level adblocking.
It’s because there’s websites out there that will entirely break, and for really dumb fucking reasons. I’ve seen some sites not even load due to google tag manager being blocked. Most of the time it’s a signal to me that I don’t want to have anything to do with that domain.
However, if this was at work, that would be a call to IT. Multiply that by potentially hundreds of calls on the regular, and that could get really expensive.
The better solution here I think, is to default the browser install with uBlock Origin already there. Then allow the user the power to toggle the addon to their own liking. Then last, train your employees to know what the addon is, and how to use it.
Then it’s the best of both worlds: websites aren’t necessarily breaking for all users, ads are absent as a default state, and users are empowered to control their own experience. (And yes there’s still going to be Jims and Karens calling for support, but they’re going to regardless, those types will always find a reason.)
Can’t imagine what the web is like outside of ublock origin…
The few websites I see on pcs by clients are essentially state backed so they don’t have ads as well.Scary world I am not eager to experience.
It’s almost as though the overbearing Yahoo/Ask! toolbars that used to plague everyone’s Internet Explorer back in the day have mutated and infected the internet at large. Now most websites feel like one useless, giant malware-riddled toolbar.
I’ve come to the same terms.
other day I decided to open reddit.com and noticed that almost every other (re)post was from a bot. even the top comments were from bots.
since then I’ve added reddit to my growing blocklist.I now spend more time on feeder, an RSS reader app.
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here’s one i got on r/all:
I didn’t scroll further or opened comment section because I didn’t want to overwhelm my brain with ragebait.
Looks like straight up rage bait. I mean reddit was heading down that path for at least the last 5 years but that is progressively worse than last July
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They would have regretted asking me this. They’d be opening an F-droid can of worms they couldn’t stop and my autistic ass wouldn’t be able to gauge if it made them uncomfortable.
What is “the enshitification face”
I can only imagine horrible things
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What is “the enshitification face”
maybe one of these?
Definitely the first one, with the dollar signs.
