So, Instagram has started pushing threads into users’ feed, and every now and then we get a glimpse into the unmoderated crapshoot that is that app…

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    2 years ago

    I’m honestly surprised and shocked that Nazism is rising up again. It is a scary idea that, that ideology is growing bit by bit.

    Have people not learnt about and from the past?

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      As the number of people who personally had interactions with the OG Nazis continues to reduce toward zero, the people who are following that same fascist ideology will start to slither their way into influence and the whole cycle will try to repeat.

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      I’m honestly surprised and shocked that Nazism is rising up again

      Have people not learnt about and from the past?

      or have you just not been paying attention? Nazism and fascism never went anywhere, and have been openly on the rise again for a significant while now, and those of us who it already impacts have been fighting them as best we can every step of the way. So maybe instead of pointing your finger at others, you should be asking yourself how this can possibly be taking you by surprise, unless you weren’t paying as much attention as you like to think you have…

    • talos_the_true_god@lemmy.worldOP
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      I think it’s quite likely they’ve learned too well about the past. If recent history (and internet-documented behavior patterns) are to be analyzed, I think it shows that people yearn for power and control over others: just look at all the karens, the reddit mods (you know which kind), the trolls, supporters of certain parties and so on.

      I guess they imagine that extremist regimes will provide them with that power, without taking a moment to think “oh, wait, the chances that I’ll be the one oppressing and not the one oppressed are miniscule” (and that’s setting all other moral things aside).

      It’s a scary thought, like you said.

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      2 years ago

      Is it though? Or are we just calling more and more things nazi that in reality aren’t? I can only speak for myself but in my case that word has entirely lost its meaning. It’s basically calling someone stupid.

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          And the person who posted it is far more likely to be an edgy teenager than a literal nazi. My question still stands.

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            Open your fuckin eyes, dude. It’s blatant and not hidden anymore. If you don’t see it, that’s because you’re choosing not to.

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              I see the huge demand for nazies but I literally never encounter them anywhere. People are calling Elon Musk a nazi for example so pardon my scepticism when I hear claims that it’s on a rise.

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        2 years ago

        Found the Nazi. You’re welcome to interpret whether this is meant literally or if I’m using your definition.

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          2 years ago

          if 5 people are sitting together, and 4 of them proudly proclaim to be nazis, and the 5th person doesn’t leave - there are 5 nazis sitting together

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      2 years ago

      It’s kind of a cycle with capitalism. There’s no real way to control it other than to get rid of capitalism altogether.

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          That simply isn’t true unless your definition of “socialism” is an alliance of segregation era American liberals, the British Empire, the Chinese Kuomintang warlords, and Stalinists, in which case

          Uh, okay bro.

          Now if you want to say “socialism removes the pressures that create support for fascism instead of creating them like in capitalism,” sure, okay.

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      The Telecommunications Act was passed in 1996 and there have since been thousands upon thousands of radical fascist talk shows all over the US airwaves for millions upon millions of hours. This is Hitler + a PA system all over again. Nazism is rising because it is encouraged by the right and supported as free speech by liberals.

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    Just fyi and not that it matters too much, but I’m pretty sure that if you have an instagram account, you’ve also got a threads account, even if you’ve never used or even seen it, that’s how they got “millions of new members” when they first launched…

    Either way, this is gross, but I’m almost glad they’re going masks off to compete with xitter’s “free speech” because while this is definitely dangerous and scary, I’d rather those who feel the same actually see them for what they really are.

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    Looks to me like they recommend this post only because you liked a post by someone who interacts with nazi posts. Maybe their algorithm sucks (commenting “delete this” counts as an interaction after all) but that’s not really a Threads problem, that’s a your-social-circle problem.

    Looks like Threads removed the post, though.

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    2 years ago

    They’re beginning to federate with Mastodon, though at least so far it’s only developers and employees at Meta. If it becomes an issue later though I’ll just block that whole domain from appearing in my feed.

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        Revisionist history is really making the rounds these days.

        I just learned the other day Jesus was a Palestinian Arab which is really amazing because the history books seem to indicate that Jesus died before Islam was founded or the term Palestine had been placed on that piece of land by its colonizers.

        I’m learning so much from Instagram and tik tock. It’s amazing. Who needs university degrees anymore!!!

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    2 years ago

    Is that 1d mean it was posted a day ago?

    Shit, how come it can survive a whole day without being removed.

    • talos_the_true_god@lemmy.worldOP
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      A bunch of friends who actively use the app were praising it for its “freedom of speech” and “unmoderated nature”. Showed me some pretty foul things while they were at it :)) safe to say, I’ve started to move away from them

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      I don’t think most of us here are laughing, a motivating factor to move away from places like Instagram and Reddit for me was their habit of ignoring far-right activity while punishing left activity. Some of us here are active on the internet in part because we know there are a lot of Nazis active too.

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        I’m pretty sure reddit and most social media is bias to the left. Maybe you should check your own beliefs as it sounds like you are part of the radical left like most people here.

        When I say far right I’m talking about antisemitic beliefs that are often rooted in racist religious beliefs. That’s not your average conservative.

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          Well yes, I am part of the ‘radical left’, and proudly so, by that mean I believe in healthcare, food and a place to live for all people regardless of any qualifier and think the political/economic systems in place now will not achieve that.

          I agree the average conservative is not a believer in that sort of antisemitism, but it’s not uncommon. In the terms of US politics, social media platforms do have a left bias, from a more global perspective though they are center or center-right, and overall just do whatever will protect their profits. Reddit, Twitter, others will ban left-wing and anti-capitalist groups and allow their algorithms to push content they know encourages far-right violence because it generates more activity.

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            I’m not sure there is alternative to “capitalism” as you call it. As it turns out we are all greedy and to add salt to the wound all of the Communist revolutions failed within a short time and caused a lot of bloodshed.

            I’m scarred of communism because it causes death and starvation in the end. What you all a right wing bias is the same to me as removing violent and harmful content. You legitimately scare me. (That’s not suppose to be insulting) We are no longer locked in a cold war so the best course of action I suppose is to just ignore you.

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            I would say if social media has any form of left leaning bias in regards to US politics, it’s entirely down to the userbase and not the platform. It’s been shown that content from left-wing politicians and groups gets buried by the algorithms on places like Facebook and Twitter when compared to content from right-wing groups and politicians on a pretty consistent basis.