I would really rather that these were actual examples, and not conspiracy theories. We all have our own unsubstantiated ideas about what shadowy no-gooders are doing, but I’d rather hear about things that are actually happening.
There is no war in Ba Sing Se.
USA Civil War: It was only the Southern states that were racist.
USA Civil War: The Confederacy was “only fighting for its way of life”. With the hope that most USA’ians will assume that “its way of life” was anything but slavery.
Not every “way of life” needs to exist.
“We fought for state’s rights!”
“State’s rights to do what?”
“……”
Horse and Sparrow Theory.
That you catch a cold because you’re cold
It’s weird seeing a regular colloquialism in a sea of politically charged comments. This one really seemed to get people riled up.
IIRC there’s some evidence that cold temperatures weaken the immune system. Assuming it’s valid, that does mean that cold could be the deciding factor between contracting a cold or fighting if off.
Now obviously germ theory is correct and it takes external infection to catch a cold, but it’s a pretty safe bet you’re being more or less constantly exposed to COVID and the flu whenever you’re in an indoor public space.
That the 2020 election was stolen.
I don’t know … all of it 🤷
Seriously, our world and reality are complex enough that we make up ideas and theories that are useful but likely untrue in some way that isn’t negligible. But so in need of useful operating theories are we that we peddle and believe them.
Constantly questioning everything is way too tiring for a species that’s still very much in the survival mode or stage of evolution.
“All models are wrong, some are useful.”
No specific examples but that’s the echo chamber style
Colonialism was a civilising mission.
Neoliberalism has also broken people’s brains to believe that nothing better is possible and anyone promising something other than managed decline or being vindictive against an outgroup is a charlatan.
Colonialism was a civilising mission.
no
This is a thread of big lies that people believe.
Climate change. Only recently people became so vocal about this and everyone began repeting climate change. Fortunately at least Greta Thunberg was arrested for invading oil platform
Recently, eh?
You consider the 1800’s recent? Because there were news articles reporting on the issue back then.
Here’s an article from 1896 for you to read over, provided you care about learning how you’re wrong.
Where have you been this last few years? Do you live on another planet? Are you really so out of touch with reality? I hope at least you have an economic interest in this, because otherwise you are really pathetic.
Maybe because it started affecting them?
No, it’s because she’s not a minor anymore, so she can be arrested for spreading such a hoax and invading private property. You see, free speech doesn’t guaratee one to spread false information and misinforming people worldwide while being funded by the EV industry. If she continues with that, she will likely rot in jail along with her followers.
You can’t be serious.
Lolwut?
“Owning a car gives you freedom” is a big one considering how expensive they are and that most people just use them to sit in traffic jams on their commute 90%+ of the time they are using them.
And depending on your car make, model, and year, there is constant surveillance/data collecting negating the owners “freedom”.
It is context dependent.
Owning a car does give you freedom in rural settings where mass transit never existed before it was bought out and run into the ground by automotive companies. They were even fairly cheap for decades if you bought them used!
But yes, if you live and work somewhere with traffic jams then owning one instead of using and pushing for more mass transit is the opposite of freedom.
I’m not even in a rural setting and the only way to get my dogs to the vet is via car. Getting a taxi to drive there is difficult when one of your dogs starts vomiting after the second turn.
That and getting to by family in a rural setting. 2 hours by car vs up to 8 by train. With two dogs. That won’t happen 😐
Besides that I don’t really need a car.
As part of a couple that just got knocked down to one vehicle instead of two, due to a wreck, I wholly disagree with your statement. Take a kid to friends house? Lol. Nope. Pick up a loaf of bread or grocery store? Negative. Park for a walk? Sorry. Get to work? Better start walking down the highway.
In this case the lie has been repeated so much and so loud that entire cities have been designed according to it.
Park for a walk
Can’t you…just walk?
I live in an area that is not safe for the kids (or adults) to walk. It’s a hilly windy area outside city limits of a smaller touristy place. Lotta state park area if you go at least 4 miles away, though.
Not if the American automotive industry has anything to say about it. The whole country has been built around making walking impossible or too dangerous to attempt, just to maximise car sales at the expense of citizens’ freedoms.
I don’t doubt it, I just don’t understand it.
You don’t have to walk on the roads. Is there no grass or dirt nearby to walk on?
Why have grass or dirt when you can have roads…? Grass and dirt sell no cars.
But what is next to the road
Judging by the pictures I’ve seen of the US, and google maps street view, more road, or parking lots. Sometimes, but not often, short stretches of sidewalk, often not wide enough to walk on safely, regularly interrupted by lampposts and whatnot.
Your whole environment is designed that way because cars need so much space. If you lived in a walkable European city all of that wouldn’t be a problem.
If my grandma had wheels she’d be a wagon.
Mind giving an example of such a city? Not like I’d be able to move now, but one never knows.
Not European, but most Japanese and Korean cities are very walkable. With trains or busses, it can occasionally be easier to get around than by car
Just watch the YouTube channel Not Just Bikes. He not only shows you examples of such cities, but goes into great detail explaining why their design works—and what flaws they have.
Anyone that says J6 was a “peaceful protest” that “got out of hand”
We all saw the footage of that day. There were gallows and calls to hang a sitting vice president.
It was an insurrection, fomented and encouraged by Donald Trump’s speech and actions leading up to that day. Plain and simple.
The right-wingers who say it wasn’t as serious as it was are gaslighting their base.
Conversely, anyone who says January 6th was a coup or anything approaching more then a wet fart. We should be so lucky that a fascist police state could be overthrown by 200 disorganized unarmed people walking into the capitol.
Whether it was a successful coup is a separate matter.
The problem wasn’t them getting anywhere near literally overthrowing the entire state, but the fact that they were trying/hoping to kill people.
There’s so many levels on which it is deeply concerning. One is just on the face value. They actually did storm the capital, the security forces in place seemed ambivalent or perhaps actually complicit to some degree. Nevertheless, numerous people were injured or died.
And then there’s everything about the precedent it sets for next time, the excuses and defenses being made of it, and the ways in which those sympathetic to it may prepare to execute on the same idea again in the future, perhaps learning from prior lessons, and perhaps confident that they won’t face any legal exposure.
It’s a horrifying idea to have been allowed to take root in the form of real physical actions, which are then carried forward in culture to set the stage for future actions.
200? What planet do you live on? Watch a video of it. Read the January 6th Commission report.
On the day it happend I watched the videos being shared by the people participating amongst each other. There were tremendously more than 200 people.
Sounds exactly like CNN’s headline “fiery but mostly peaceful protests after police shooting” after the George Floyd protests where like, 30 people died.
You know what the word ‘mostly’ means, right?
Do you not think it’s relevant to point out that:
- Only 3.7% of the protests involved vandalism or property damage
- Only 2.3% of the protests involved any sort of violence (excluding vandalism or property damage)
- Much of the violence was directed against the BLM protesters
- Much of the violence was begun or escalated by police (who are supposed to be trained to de-escalate)
- Much of the property damage and property damage was not linked to protesters
If 5% of the people involved at violent BLM protests were violent and if the numbers above reflected only protester initiated violence, then that would mean roughly 0.12% of BLM protesters (or 1 in a thousand) were violent. But since, as we know, most of the violence was directed against them, that number is probably more like 0.05%, or 5 in 10,000. Obviously that number would be much worse for the actual instigators of most of the violence (police and far-right Trump supporters).
Also weird that you say “like 30 people” died when it was more like 10:
- 8 BLM protesters
- 1 far-right, pro-Trump protester, who was shot by a self-identified anti-fascist protester who said he had been acting in self-defense
- the above anti-fascist protester, who was shot by police
Yes, there were like 25 deaths related to political unrest in 2020, but most of those were not at BLM protests. Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled
But hey, keep telling yourself that an active, intentionally orchestrated attempt by Trump and his supporters to violently overturn the results of our Presidential election was “basically the same thing lol” as a bunch of people who were protesting police violence and racism.
an active, intentionally orchestrated attempt by Trump and his supporters to violently overturn the results of our Presidential election was “basically the same thing lol” as a bunch of people who were protesting police violence and racism.
Yes, that’s exactly what I said. -_-
It’s comments like this that make me glad Lemmy has a star that lets you favorite them. Thank you very much.
This fuckin quote is from Joseph Goebbels and was about one of his views on a Jewish conspiracy. I so hate this quote.
Iran has convinced a large portion of their population that the holocaust never happened.
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Got a few
https://www.ushmm.org/information/press/press-kits/press-guide-to-holocaust-denial-in-iran
Here are a few sources. If you Google Iranian Holocaust Denial you’ll find a plethora more.
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America is the greatest country in the world. Only those who haven’t travelled much would believe that.
It is a libertarian’s dream country though. No where else is it so easy to get others to invest in your idea.
Ukraine will win. Israel will win. Capitalism of today will survive. USA/NATO empire will survive (spoiler: they will end up worse than USSR).
