• themeatbridge@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    4k tvs existed before the content existed. I think the larger issue is that the difference between what is and what could be is not worth the additional expense, especially at a time when most people struggle to pay rent, food, and medicine. More people watch videos on their phones than watch broadcast television. 8k is a solution looking for a problem.

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      2 months ago

      Hell I still don’t own a 4k tv and don’t plan to go out of my way to buy one unless the need arises. Which I don’t see why I need that when a normal flat-screen looks fine to me.

      I actually have some tube tvs and be thinking of just hooking my vcr back up and watching old tapes. I don’t need fancy resolutions in my shows or movies.

      Only time I even think of those things is with video games.

      • NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        4K hardly even makes sense unless your tv is over 70" and your watching it from less than 4 feet away. I do think VR could benefit from ultra-high resolution, though.

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          2 months ago

          https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-size/size-to-distance-relationship

          Extensive write up on this whole issue, even includes a calculator tool.

          But, basically:

          Yeah, going by angular resolution, even leaving the 8K content drought aside…

          8K might make sense for a computer monitor you sit about 2 feet / 0.6m away from, if the diagonal size is 35 inches / ~89cm, or greater.

          Take your viewing distance up to 8 feet / 2.4m away?

          Your screen diagonal now has to be about 125 inches / ~318cm, or larger, for you to be able to maybe notice a difference with a jump from 4K to 8K.

          The largest 8K TV that I can see available for purchase anywhere near myself… that costs ~$5,000 USD… is 85 inches.

          I see a single one of 98 inches that is listed for $35,000. That’s the largest one I can see, but its… uh, wildly more expensive.

          So with a $5,000, 85 inch TV, that works out to…

          You would have to be sitting closer than about 5 feet / ~1.5 meters to notice a difference.

          And that’s assuming you have 20/20 vision.

          So yeah, VR goggle displays… seem to me to be the only really possibly practical use case for 8K … other than basically being the kind of person who owns a home with a dedicated theater room.

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            2 months ago

            What this chart is missing is the impact of the quality of the screen and the source material being played on it.

            A shit screen is a shit screen, just like a badly filmed TV show from the 80s will look like crap on anything other than an old CRT.

            People buying a 4k screen from Wallmart for $200 then wondering why they cant tell its any better than their old 1080p screen.

            The problem with pushing up resolution is the cost to get a good set right now is so much its a niche within a niche of people who actually want it. Even a good 4k set with proper HDR support and big enough to make a different is expensive. Even when 8k moves away from early adopter markups its still going to be expensive, especially when compared to the tat you can by at the supermarket.

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          2 months ago

          At 1.6 meter for the metric minded. If you really stretch out and can hit the tv with your toes it’s about the right distance.