A video recorded last week has ignited outrage online after it captured ICE agents violently arresting two brothers in South Norwalk, Connecticut, in broad daylight without producing a warrant. The men, identified as Ricardo Chavez and his brother, reportedly hold legal status to live and work in the United States.
The footage (credit @alwaysfilmthepolice) shows plainclothes ICE agents forcibly detaining the men in a public area. Witnesses say the agents refused to provide identification or present a warrant when asked, instead resorting to physical force and a taser to subdue the brothers before hauling them away. They also allegedly damaged their vehicle.
Community members who know the Chavez family insist that both men are law-abiding residents with valid documentation. “They work, they pay taxes, and they belong here,” said one South Norwalk resident who witnessed the arrest. “This was nothing short of a kidnapping.”
Surely the don’t tread on me people are fuming and about to patrol the streets to keep their communities safe, right?
Don’t Tread on me people are perfectly fine with other people getting tread on.
I’ve only heard the “don’t tread on me” weirdos sing the cell block tango. “they had it coming, they only had themselves to blame.”
ICE isn’t going to their communities
"“Better to be judged by 12 than to be kidnapped and dragged to a death camp by as few as 2!”
Alleged ICE agents. They haven’t identified themselves, can we really say they’re federal agents?
Watching this shit happen in America from afar really is a mind fuck. I continue to fail to understand how Trump can still have any support is beyond me. The facism is just so god damn blatant at this point
Racism. The answer is racism. His white supremacist supporters love watching masked secret police beat the shit out of brown people. Then they’ll blame the next closest person when the food stops being produced and the farm food all rots on the vine
And beyond racism it is happening in blue cities.
His supporters are primed to think that cities are dangerous places already, and that a city led by liberals is in shambles, and that all the people living there are lawless liberals that deserve punishment.
They are cheering about this because they see it as sending their troops to go hurt others. Whether those people are other because of their race, their religion, their gender, their sexuality, or their political beliefs.
And when these same people find out that something about them or a loved one makes them other they will act shocked. They will protest that they aren’t an other they are in the in-group.
And then they will learn the true nature of fascism. The in-group is constantly shrinking, because there must always be an other to blame. And they will learn that lesson too late.
I saw a bumper sticker the other day that resonated with me “Stop pretending your racism is patriotism”
It reminded me of something an African American woman said to me during college more than 20 years ago “I always watch out for people that love to fly the American flag because you never know what that really means.”
Well 20 years ago nationalism in the US was at seemingly an all time high. It was hat dressed up as patriotism
Well Harris wasn’t progressive enough for me so this is okay so we can show the democrats we’re sick of them.
If 4 years of bullshit leads to a stronger opposition party that can learn from this and make sure it never happens again, great. That’s admittedly a big bet against heavy odds but one can hope.
People forget this is the second time trump has been president. The Democrats had 4 years to prepare to prevent what we’re currently living with. And they came up with a plan, they chose a doddering senile old man as their candidate then when it became obvious that he was a doddering senile old man they replaced him midstream with his deeply flawed and uncharismatic VP. And she lost, wow, I’m shocked.
So you’re not worried about the people who will die because Trump is in power?
There’s very little I can do about it now. If i.could go back and change it I would. I can’t, so I’m hoping the DNC learns from this. I’m not holding my breath. I’m 90% convinced they’re controlled opposition and have been actively working towards this.
So you’re not, I got it.
I don’t get why they try and weasel around it. Just own it, tankies.
We aren’t the ones who could have simple not funded ICE.
And so, you’re fine with what’s happening under Trump. Yes, we get it.
Just own that, and stop weasling.
There’s very little I can do about it now. If i.could go back and change it I would. I can’t, so I’m hoping the DNC learns from this. I’m not holding my breath. I’m 90% convinced they’re controlled oppoaition and have been actively working towards this.
Yeah but she supports genocide or something.
Reminder: nazis are worthless pieces of trash. Who could possibly still pull out of this mess with major life changes and yadda yadda.
Nazi COPS are not saveable. They are no longer human.
Dehumanizing one’s enemies is what Nazis do.
We need not tolerate the intolerant. Else we have a paradox.
So don’t tolerate them. Don’t act like them either.
Cops are taking people to concentration camps which will certainly become death camps or slavery in time
I agree that they’re bad people. I do not agree that they aren’t people.
Yep. Which is why they need to be dehumanized. There is a difference when it’s targeting one specific group because of their murderous hatred. They need to be stopped.
You can stop them without using their rhetoric.
History has shown us that there is only one way to stop them. I guess people like you need to learn the hard way again, rather than learn from history.
How exactly is saying “they’re not human” on the internet going to stop them?
Read a history book, then maybe you’ll understand what I was referring to.
I’ve read a few, but none of them said that we defeated Hitler by calling him subhuman on the internet.
Those seeking to destroy humanity are not worthy of our humanity.
Are you saying that to defeat Nazis we must become Nazis?
If that’s how your spongy brain wants to see it, sure. By that logic, all of the WWII veterans are actually Nazis.
WW2 veterans didn’t dehumanize people, wtf are you talking about?
They just shot them and turned them into hamburger
They treated them as enemies, not non-humans. Its an important distinction. Its the reason they were the good guys and you’re not.
What do you think a Nazi actually is? Because it isn’t “stop fascists from killing other people.”
Why do you keep equating these two things? It’s weird.
Why are you using Nazi tactics when you supposedly want to stop Nazis?
What “Nazi tactics” am I using, specifically? I would love to know.
Dehumanization
again with this? tolerating the intolerant is not possible. in addition, I did not dehumanize them. they do it to themselves.
why do you support nazis?
“They are no longer human” doesn’t count as dehumanizing? Is english not your first language?
It’s not about tolerating the intolerant, it’s about not using their same thought process lest you fall prey to the same kinds of propaganda. Besides, removing their humanity absolves them of their sin. This isn’t like a house cat killing birds on instinct, these people choose to do this. And they should be treated accordingly.
Broke: Nazis aren’t human
Woke: The worst monsters to be born on this planet are all human, and they all seem to really like swastikas
it’s about not using their same thought process
It’s not even close to the same thought process though. You have to know that, right?
removing their humanity absolves them of their sin.
Also, I take issue with the entire concept of “sin,” so that argument holds no water for me. I mean, what a meaningless “argument”. How does it absolve them of anything??
It absolutely is. It’s a thought process people use to make their actions easier to justify to their own sense of morality and empathy. Militaries drill that same thought process into soldiers for the same reason. It’s much easier to shoot something than it is to shoot somebody, so your enemy must be less than human to make pulling the trigger easier. So you turn a group of people into the Other. And the more you do it, the easier it gets, and all it takes is somebody convincing you that the wrong group deserves the same treatment.
“My enemy isn’t human. My enemy is less than human. Since the dawning of Mankind, this has been the battlecry.”
Also, I take issue with the entire concept of “sin,” so that argument holds no water for me. I mean, what a meaningless “argument”. How does it absolve them of anything??
I don’t care one way or another about the theology around the word “sin,” but it’s the perfect word to describe their actions. By reducing them to subhuman, you make it easy to remove their free will in the equation - it becomes the “just following orders” excuse - and it’s incredibly important to remember that they chose to do this. Nobody is born hateful, hatred is learned. They made the conscious choice to be hateful and act this way, and they should be held accountable for that choice.
People have a hard time accepting that the worst people this planet has ever seen are as human as you and me, but to deny it is to turn a blind eye to the fact that the people in that video could be our neighbors, friends, or family. Because we know them, and they’re good people, so they’d never do something like that, right?
Much more well put than I could do myself.
fair and cogent reply. i’ll take it. :)
Oh fuck off. People are pissed off and rightly so, don’t impose your bloated sense of morality on them and try to villainize the people being put under the boot of fascists for viewing those fascists as inhuman monsters when they are acting like inhuman monsters. Asking people to humanize victims is fine, but demanding that people humanize those that terrorize them is just moral masturbation. Shut the hell up.
Oh fuck off.
No.
don’t impose your bloated sense of morality on them
My sense of morality is the reason I’m not a Nazi and don’t act like a Nazi.
for viewing those fascists as inhuman monsters
You know what, you’re right. We should just shrug, throw our hands up, and declare “guess they’re just evil subhuman scum!” instead of looking at the problem objectively and dealing with the societal issues that lead human beings into these kinds of ideologies. I bet that’ll work this time.
demanding that people humanize those that terrorize them is just moral masturbation
Bullshit. They are human beings. They have some really bad beliefs and it’s ok to dislike them. You’re already justified. You don’t need the hyperbolus bullshit. You don’t need to talk exactly like they do to make your point.
Fuck fascists. They are subhuman scum because they are actively choosing to be subhuman scum. They forfeit their right to be regarded as a person and became part of a system of hate. It’s not an innate trait of who they are, and I’m not giving them the benefit of empathy when they are making the choice of viewing real people as targets out of pure hatred of them being a different skin color or speaking a different language or being born on a different piece of land. Nazis and fascists gave up their humanity by choice, not by nature. You’re begging sympathy for the devil to appease your ego to feel holier than thou. Fuck your soap box.
Ok Adolf.
Whatever you say, Himmler.
The fuck is the point of 2a if not to resist this?
That’s why https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/huntington-park-border-patrol-agents-door-explosion/3734095/ we lost our government to fascists. They control our military
That’s what the 2a is for. Resistance.
please view the linked article and video of what happened at the house in the article.
I read the article. Shooting agents such as those in the article is what the second amendment is for
lmao watch the video. rip to you
I saw the video. Do you think that you have a point, or are you just making dipshit comments for fun?
You did not see the video, anyone with half a brain would know the outcome if anyone tried to 2a in that situation. Living is better than swiss cheese
I always thought the whole point of 2a was to shoot POC… But I’m not an American so maybe the nuance is lost on me
I am an American “person of color” (gods, what stupid phrase… fuck this newspeak) who owns firearms (at home, I live abroad currently.
Here’s the exact verbiage of the 2nd Amendment:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Interpret that as thou wilt; we’ve been arguing about since about 1791.
For what it’s worth, I’d amend the amendment to include this snippet from Marx, just to confuse us all even more:
Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.
I don’t disagree about anything you said, just a quick note because it’s a term that’s worth understanding:
“Newspeak” is a concept based on the dumbing down of language in order to make communication more difficult and complex concepts almost impossible. It’s not just new words or phrases. If it’s not damaging our ability to think and communicate, it’s not Newspeak. For this reason, “politically correct” alternatives (like “POC”), as well as increasingly specific terms (like “omnisexual” or “semi girl”) don’t qualify as Newspeak because they either continue the existing ability to think and communicate or enhance it by being more exacting about the concepts involved.
I’m not trying to be pedantic, it’s just important to me that people understand what Newspeak really is because the fascists really are trying to implement it as a means of reducing resistance against them. My favorite example is “climate change” which was a term introduced by right wing think tanks to undermine the more accurate (and more alarming) term “global warming.” And it worked.
Anyway, again I don’t disagree with your points, so please carry on!
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I have to concur. I used to work at a place where some portion of employees were NRA style gun owners. Couldn’t help noticing that the people always going on about guns were psychopaths that least should’ve been allowed near anything dangerous.
They are also simply not in their neighborhoods.
Man I want to walk up behind the Nazi in that third pic and kick him in the grundle so hard.
End qualified immunity! Any politicians that want a future in government should be call for this.
Imagine, I got a 7 day ban on Reddit for saying it would be funny if someone stole an ICE dick’s car and left him standing there with his little mask.
These guys deserve so much worse than being stranded like that. And Reddit is ri-god-damn-diculous.
I’m quickly running out of chewing gum.
This is eventually going to result in a new Black Panther or Guardian Angel group like the 60s/70s.
Will be interesting to see these masked pieces of shit face some actual competition brandishing fucking rifles.
Ironically, the guy who ran the Guardian Angels is now the Republican candidate for NYC Mayor…
The guardian angels are just different pieces of shit
Yup, then martial law and suspended elections. It’s almost like their plans are publicly available.
We’ll hold our own elections, with blackjack and hookers
Maybe they’ll use the rifles?
Maybe the citizens with guns need to show up when kidnappings are going down… Might change the new ICE employees minds.
Las Panteras Negras
How about Las Masqueras Negras. El Bloc Negro.
¿Es ese “black bloc” en español?
I’m surprised at the general lack of references to black bloc in these times.
No se. Traducía palabra por cada uno. Puede ser, como dijiste, nadie está hablando sobre el black block en estos días
Yeah. It’s very surprising considering how relevant black bloc is to the current circumstances. Seems like something protestors need to be aware of an practice for safety and solidarity.
Hey, if ICE is using those tactics, we should, too!
Fifth Amendment:
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Fourteenth Amendment:
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
They continue to violate the Constitution in so many ways. The Constitution recognizes “person” as any human on US soil.
- unless you’re brown or darker.
You made the classic mistake of forgetting the footnote, silly! See, now it all makes sense!
Only worth that the people defend
Problem is there will be plenty of USAians still saying “this is what I voted for”.
Right up until their door gets kicked in.
Sure, but that only counts if you have due process, and if people are still presumed innocent until proven guilty.
But if you don’t get your day in court, you can’t do anything about this.
Federal government:
Did the new season drop yet !?
No. December, probably.
October 29th, last I heard.
Not yet, October 29th. I’m looking forward to it! The songs were surprisingly good.
The songs are pretty good! Most of the Helluva Boss songs are decent, but after having heard them dozens of times each… some of them just start sounding like shit tbh. There were only 1 or 2 Hazbin songs I actively found a bit annoying.
If they don’t identify themselves, they are kidnappers and
SECOND AMENDMENT.
I see the 5th and 14th above… as a non American, can someone post the Second Amendment and then I’ll be able to post all three amendments to thousands of posts. And feel smug about it.
Seriously, these need to be constantly posted in every single thread where it’s required
2nd amendment is the right to bear arms.
*has ancestors that hauled ass all the way from Europe, beats latin americans because immigrant"
Anyone have a link to the video? Trying to save all of these since they tend to disappear
That only has screenshots and a link to Instagram which wants me to sign in 😢
Yep, MAGA is filled with fucking neo-Nazis who want to turn the USA in to 1930’s Germany.
