Companies reporting price increases as “adjusting for inflation” when the price hike does not match inflation. Entire C-suite go to the gulag working for a penny per year until they made back the collective profits of the entire company.
We need to unironically do what China does with its rich, terrorize them and make them walk on eggshells and hand out ridiculously harsh punishments to management when it’s a business committing a crime worth insane amounts of money.
Transphobia
Is calling a MTF transperson a man considered ‘transphobia’ in your mind?
Do you honestly believe people should be imprisoned for it?
Intentionally and knowingly calling a MTF trans person a man is transphobia. Dunno about jail, but I’d be down to have legally enforced punishment for that. To be fair, that should probably cover all cases of (intentionally and knowingly) misgendering people, in a similar fashion to defamation.
Dang. Thanks for being honest, but I vehemently disagree with you.
People should be allowed to call others what they want. It’s up to us to be mature enough to handle people calling us things we don’t like.
You should know that advocating for legal repercussions here drives people away from the cause.
Anti LGBTQ+ bigotry in general.
This kind of bigotry has led to suicides of LGBTQ+ people and terrorist attacks against their communities. This is beyond “offending” someone.
Bigotry in general. It is easy to not judge a book by its cover as long as you’re not an illiterate, lazy-minded fuck.
They are allowed to be scared of trans people, no projecting it though.
We’re just giving them a reason to be scared :)
People have irrational fears all the time, no reason needed.
Ehhhhh… only for a time. If you’re still a fearful cunt after having several positive experiences, then you’re just a broken human, too chicken to ever grow to understand let alone improve the real world.
It should still come down to behavior, though. Being afraid itself isn’t bad. It’s deciding that society needs to bend to your irrational fears where it becomes bigotry against reality.
You said it was better than I did, thanks!
elected officials stock trading
landlords
Puttering along in the left lane, at or below the speed limit. The left lane is for passing.
The left lane is for crime.
So? Stay in your lane. Everyone’s great.
The left lane is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only.
No, the white zone is for loading of passengers and there is no stopping in a RED zone.
The left lane has ALWAYS been for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only!
Don’t you tell me which lane is for loading, and which lane is for stopping!
There’s just no stopping in the left lane
Listen, Betty, don’t start up with your left lane shit again.
Oh, really, Vernon? Why pretend? We both know perfectly well what this is about. You want me to have an abortion.
According to the highway code, the left lane is the one you should stay in, the right lane is the fast lane, or for overtaking.
Killing animals to eat their flesh. Murder is fucked up, human or not.
Murder is fucked up, human or not.
Couple issues with that. Murder is just illegal homicide. The homicide bit means it’s definitively only dealing with humans, and the legal bit is only as fucked up (or not) as the law itself, and history is littered with examples of legality clashing with morality.
We have some really evil folks in this world and they’re protected by the same laws as everyone else. Some of those evil people are doing things like running countries or mega-corporations or engaging in some other means of causing a massive scope of death and/or suffering. You find yourself in a position in which you could feasibly take their life - do you? It’s illegal: very much murder. But allowing them to persist allows whatever evil they’re inflicting on everyone else to also persist.
I know none of this is what you’re talking about, but I see the word ‘murder’ pop up a lot in conversations like this, and it’s just not the correct word for what you’re trying to describe. You can make a solid case for the morality of veganism without relying on the connotation of buzzwords that aren’t actually relevant.
Farming can be ethical. You’d get a lot more agreeing by simply saying, “factory farming”.
A good farm should be giving the animals a better life than quite a lot of humans currently get. A statement that should be damning to both sides.
Nope. They all end up in the same place with a knife to their throat.
I disagree, but i would be happier with better conditions. I still think murder is wrong, and I oppose it, but if you remove the torture aspect I admit you’re doing dramatically less harm.
there’s no way to avoid torturing an animal while taking their life when they don’t want to die.
That’s kind of an absurd statement, isn’t it?
If you murder me by shooting me in the back of the head while I’m not looking, that’s not torture.
Obviously I still don’t want you to kill me, but… It’s still not torture, it’s a different thing, and we have different words for that… it’s murder, or killing, or slaughter.
Please keep in mind I’m not making a moral or ethical judgement, but a definitional one. Torture is a different thing.
If, as you say
there’s no way to avoid torturing an animal while taking their life when they don’t want to die.
How are you defining torture?
Did I torture my dearly beloved pets when they had cancer or infections bad enough that I had to have them put down? No! What an odd and cruel thing that would be for me to say!
But they still didn’t want to die, and I didn’t want them to either. That’s not torture.
That’s completely fair, I was thinking more of the day in day out torture when I wrote that. My bad.
You’d get a lot more agreeing by saying “Fuck it do whatever you want animals aren’t people” so fuck your entire argument.
Farming can be ethical.
Oh? You can ethically rape someone? You can ethically murder someone? What do you think animal agriculture entails?
Absolutely. And I further submit that if we’re to think of ourselves as an intelligent, enlightened, civilized, and technological species, moving beyond our predatory instinct is one of the first prerequisites.
What’s the first thing we claim sets us apart from every other animal? Especially the other apex predators like lions? Oh right, how humans aren’t beholden to natural instincts and have advanced beyond mindless killing machines. We say while buying another hamburger because we can’t even get past the primal urge to keep eating animal meat as soon as we taste it because that urge literally evolved in a time where the only choices were to hunt or starve. With all our technology you’d think we’d embrace more efficient ways of nutrient delivery.
Only once we completely stop exploiting animals can we in good faith say we’re actually materially better than any other animal species.
Step 1: stop the exploitation of other humans. This is gonna probably be the biggest roadblock not gonna lie.
You’re right, and furthering the cause against exploitation of humans will help those values to be applied to animals as well. Both are exploitation and come from similar motives and perceived hierarchy. I’d say that a society that has completely ended exploitation of humans will most likely be one that has also ended exploitation of animals because the values that drive the former will also drive the latter. There are very few cases where it’s human lives OR animal lives.
Try telling that to the animals
Animals don’t share our sense of morality and it would be ridiculous to expect them to.
We also don’t typically arrest other species.
We also don’t typically arrest other species.
“typically”
I’m going to need the examples you’re thinking of where we did please… they should be quite amusing with my morning coffee tomorrow :-)
I’m not them, but
https://www.weirdhistorian.com/a-few-cases-of-killer-pigs-facing-capital-punishment/
Note: I suggest you don’t look up “(type of animal) arrested,” because most of what pops up is horrible people arrested for doing terrible things to animals. (Although a couple cats have been “arrested” in modern times.) I just happened to remember the pig trials of yore.
not to mention that when sharks attack people, they often go and kill a shark in retaliation. same goes with dogs who attack people.
Sadly this is not amusing as I had hoped at all … I should have expected as much. :-(
this sounds like you are judging individuals based on their membership in a class. this sounds like paternalistic speciesism.
Capitalism
Lobbying; at least in its current form. Corporations being treated as people when it benefits them, but not when it would hurt them. Executives not being held legally accountable for the harm they inflict. SJC-Legalized bribery (as “speech”). HOAs. The Bail system. Legislatures redistricting themselves. Racial profiling. ICE. For-Profit prisons. For-Profit Healthcare. Destroying our ecosystem for profit.
Alcohol and gambling. The death and suffering these cause is unfathomable. Just within my small social sphere I’ve encountered numerous people that have had their entire families ripped apart or destroyed by these, particularly alcohol.
Are you going to pay my rent since apparently my life is yours to control?
If alcohol and gambling only affected the lives of those partaking in them, then we wouldn’t have a problem.
Not to diminish the harms of alcohol, but the USA tried that once and it went pretty badly. Prohibition of other drugs has also led to considerable harm. The cure may be worse than the disease here.
How did prohibition go badly in the case of alcohol?
Are you talking about how there was resistance to it at all?
It created a massive black market which greatly increased the profitability of organized crime. That lead to a substantial increase in policing, often conducted with little regard for civil rights.
It bugs me that the lessons were learned with alcohol but they’ve double downed on everything else
Advertising.
tobacco should be treated at least as bad as weed
Prohibitionists make me sick. If only we could prohibit them from existing.
there’s more than one way for what i described: regulate tobacco like weed or regulate weed like tobacco, and having it ssomewhere in between of your choice
Fixed prices for fines. These should be based on a fixed percentage, not fixed dollar amount, of a persons overall wealth. None of this bullshit that can bankrupt a poor person but be the price of admission for the rich.
Historically, fee-based “laws” are specifically designed to punish the poor. You off to update the whole system, or just the last few thousand years or so?
Being cruel to other people by hiding behind some power imbalance.
I don’t want to live in a society where the consequence for this behavior is a meaningless fine.
Beep boop beep boop
yeah, looks like I"m going to have to lie to everyone about using AI int he future because you people are becoming insufferable
I just want to make it clear that I’m not going to feel bad about it, lying to your face about it and I’m going to have a lot of fun doing it.
Good job smartypantsLying about it just makes you a coward.
And it’s not like it’s gonna change anything, people will still notice?
It’s not AI, I drew it by hand
You’re going to have a lot of fun generating pictures with AI and then telling people you didn’t?
That’s sad and weird dude, please go outside, you have been online too long and forgotten that there are real things out there.
yes,no,don’t care, fuck grass
Say no to AI slop
The Copyright Crusaders©®™ are on the scene! They fight for the mouse
shush synthophobe
Tell you what, you provide me a non-AI painting remaking of the “O brother what art thou” film post
with the characters replaces with Luigi Mangionne and the word brother changed to Luigi.
And I will put it in my post.Have you never seen a meme? You don’t have to bust out the oil paints, in the amount of time you’ve already spent defending this slop you could have clumsily pasted his cutout head onto all six positions. The rough quality can be part of the humor.
I bet your chatbot can explain this and other aspects of human behavior.
Just don’t dump AI spam everywhere 🤷♂️
How about you keep your sentiments to yourself
The funny thing is, I could copy the AI’s work, but I couldn’t create it from scratch because I wouldn’t know what it should look like without looking at it, so it would still be using AI anyway.
Learn to draw.
Use MS paint.
This took about 100 times longer
Is this not murder? There’s no way he didn’t contribute to her death even if she was already terminally ill. Stabbing a terminally ill person is murder, putting a newborn baby on the street under the guise of “it’s in my property and it’s not my kid” is murder, why isn’t this? At least criminal negligence no?
Also, is Nanimo doing okay? Like, just in general, but is the housing situation as bad as Vancouver?
Driving like a fucking idiot.
Generally think mandatory minimums are unjust, but political corruption. It’s wrong per se but also has downstream negative effects on society.
